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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesIt does not matter much what I think. The question is what does God think and whether or not they care what he thinks.
Do you believe they should go to hell if they continue to reject him?
Originally posted by whodeyArabs have been enslaving ssAfricans since the 8th century CE. The Jews have this beat; they've been enslaved since before the CE. However, nowadays Jews are present in many high status positions in the world and Israel gets a lot more attention and support from the western world (mostly the US) than ssAfrica does. I never hear of anti-Jew racism any more; anti-Zionism, yes, anti-Jew, not really. The levels of hatred and contempt for Africans and African Americans are much more pronounced. It's a tough call.
Do Sub-Saharan Africans have such a history of persecution as do the Jews?
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI would say that the poor often get neglected and abused simply because they are poor. This is a world wide phenomenon. It matters little what race or religion you are. As far as anitsemitism goes, however, this is also a world wide phenomenon that seems to go back as far as the Jewish race came into existence. However, it seems the reverse is true about being abused and being poor. It seems they are resented for success and often are viewed as keeping the working man down, so to speak.
Arabs have been enslaving ssAfricans since the 8th century CE. The Jews have this beat; they've been enslaved since before the CE. However, nowadays Jews are present in many high status positions in the world and Israel gets a lot more attention and support from the western world (mostly the US) than ssAfrica does. I never hear of anti-Jew racism any ...[text shortened]... d and contempt for Africans and African Americans are much more pronounced. It's a tough call.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAnyone with sincere motivation can convert to Judaism; I'm not sure if the same applies to people with a hankering to be black (though a certain RHP clan has done pioneering work in this field).
Notice in the latter two how "Nubians" have been called a specific race since ancient Egypt (the Book of Gates) and ssAfricans have been split off into a specific race consistently in every "race list" in the Hostorical Definitions link. The Jews do not seem to be. ssAfricans are always the "other" and always have been to the dominant societies.
Originally posted by whodeyFirstly I beleive that the whole 400 years of slavery in Egypt is a made up story.
It fails to cover the Jewish plight before 70 CE, however. This includes the Exodus out of Egypt after 400 years of slavery as well as the struggle to become a nation and subsequent myriad of invasions and captivities before 70 CE.
Originally posted by whodeySo it would seem....
Do any Christians think that such persecution comes because they are "God's chosen people"? After all, the Jewish people brought us the Messiah and have a place in end time prophecy in Revelation. In Revelation chapter 12, it appears to describe this scenerio of persecution of not only the Jewish people, but of Christians as well.
Originally posted by whodeyI would say taht any one that is a true follower of the true and living God is hated the most and the race that is hated teh most is whites or mexicans.
I came across this thread the other day.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers.htm
This web site begins covering the persecution of the Jewish people from 70 CE till the end of the Second World War. It fails to cover the Jewish plight before 70 CE, however. This includes the Exodus out of Egypt after 400 years of slavery as well as the struggle t ...[text shortened]... s nor do I think they should be persecuted and "pay" for their continued rejection of him.
Originally posted by RBHILLI wolud say taht anynoe who canont be botheerd to chcek to see if the letrtes to the wodrs in his post are the rihgt way aruond shuold be haetd the most.
I would say taht any one that is a true follower of the true and living God is hated the most and the race that is hated teh most is whites or mexicans.
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou've been hanging around froggie too long, unfortunately. Apparently Moses needed some type of instant history around which to rally two million people, thus he appropriated the slavery motif from (fill in applicable ancient myth and/or actual history).
Firstly I beleive that the whole 400 years of slavery in Egypt is a made up story.
Secondly I believe that during the exitence of the state of Israel, the palestinians have suffered more than the Israelis.
I belive Arabs have a long history of suffering at the hands of Christians.
But how do you quantify it all and exactly what constitutes a 'race'? In ...[text shortened]... hier new neighbours often get persecuted in some way. This happens a lot to indians in africa.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI dont know if Moses existed. Can you provide any evidence outside the Bible for the existence of Jewish slaves in Egypt or for any of the events described about the time of Moses? Are you aware that the basic story exists in other cultures and predates the Jewish version?
You've been hanging around froggie too long, unfortunately. Apparently Moses needed some type of instant history around which to rally two million people, thus he appropriated the slavery motif from (fill in applicable ancient myth and/or actual history).