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    > We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
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    > Get all the Article of Faith FHE lessons here.
    > Thought: “Our Father in Heaven is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The prophet Mormon tells us that God is ‘unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity’ [Moroni 8:18]. In this world where nearly everything seems to be changing, His constancy is something on which we can rely, an anchor to which we can hold fast and be safe, lest we be swept away into uncharted waters.”
    > —President Thomas S. Monson, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
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    11 Jan '13 18:361 edit
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
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    > We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
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    > Get all the Article of Faith FHE lessons here.
    > Thought: “Our Father in Heaven is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The prophet Mormon tells us that God is ‘unchangeable from all eter ...[text shortened]... s.”
    > —President Thomas S. Monson, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
    Who really wrote the Book of Mormon?

    The Book of Morman contains a lot of text that is exactly the same as the King's James Version of the Bible, including known translation errors. This has cause suspicion from many scholars of the Holy Bible that the Book of Mormon is not what it is claimed to be. The following links gives some information about this suspicion.

    http://aristophrenium.com/adam/who-really-wrote-the-book-of-mormon/

    http://www.mormonsinshock.com/Origins.htm

    http://www.newhopefwb.com/mormonism5.htm
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    11 Jan '13 18:53
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
    . In this world where nearly everything seems to be changing, His constancy is something on which we can rely,
    The uncihangeability of something you cannot see, hear or touch is
    pointless and unprovable. Even if a supernatural being did exist how
    would you know if it was unchanging and more to the point why should
    you care?
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    11 Jan '13 19:271 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Who really wrote the Book of Mormon?

    The Book of Morman contains a lot of text that is exactly the same as the King's James Version of the Bible, including known translation errors. This has cause suspicion from many scholars of the Holy Bible that the Book of Mormon is not what it is claimed to be. The following links gives some information about this ...[text shortened]... ormon/

    http://www.mormonsinshock.com/Origins.htm

    http://www.newhopefwb.com/mormonism5.htm
    That the Book of Mormon contains scriptures that are in the King James Bible is not, imo immediate cause for discrediting it. First of all, the New Testament contains a great deal of exact verbiage from the Old Testament, much of which was Jesus quoting scripture. Second, the BOM's exact wording from the New Testament are from Jesus himself, while he was purportedly visiting the people in the Americas.

    The Book of Mormon is exactly what it claims to be--another testament of the Christ--and you might know this if you had actually read it.

    I have read the Book of Mormon many times in my lifetime--a good number of those times, cover to cover. The issue for me is the infallibility and divine validity of any of the sacred texts as they are utilized to control humans.
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    11 Jan '13 19:35
    Originally posted by Lloyd E Adkins
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    > We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
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    > Get all the Article of Faith FHE lessons here.
    > Thought: “Our Father in Heaven is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The prophet Mormon tells us that God is ‘unchangeable from all eter ...[text shortened]... s.”
    > —President Thomas S. Monson, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
    How DO you get all those natty little chevrons before every line?
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    How DO you get all those natty little chevrons before every line?
    Some email services add them in automatically to the text of emails that are being responded to. My guess is that he's just posting what had been emailed to him.
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    11 Jan '13 20:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Who really wrote the Book of Mormon?

    The Book of Morman contains a lot of text that is exactly the same as the King's James Version of the Bible, including known translation errors. This has cause suspicion from many scholars of the Holy Bible that the Book of Mormon is not what it is claimed to be. The following links gives some information about this ...[text shortened]... ormon/

    http://www.mormonsinshock.com/Origins.htm

    http://www.newhopefwb.com/mormonism5.htm
    It bears an uncanny resemblance to a romantic/speculative history novel which sat on the shelves of the publishing company wherein one Joseph Smith was a janitor.

    If memory serves, the ex-clergyman was known as Solomon Spalding and his wanna-be book was called, Manuscript Found.
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    11 Jan '13 22:47
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    The uncihangeability of something you cannot see, hear or touch is
    pointless and unprovable. Even if a supernatural being did exist how
    would you know if it was unchanging and more to the point why should
    you care?
    If God was literally unchanging, of course, there would be nothing to observe and no interaction would be possible. The Gnostics addressed that problem more directly than the Christians. But for Christians, God has done plenty of changing. The Old and New Testament are filled with changes, which the devout have taken to explaining as a gradually unfolding message, changing over time to meet the changing needs of the faithful (initially of course the Jews, but sometimes losing patience with them, then switching allegiance to the Christians apparently). So it would seem that in a changing world, God changes too.
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    Originally posted by hakima
    That the Book of Mormon contains scriptures that are in the King James Bible is not, imo immediate cause for discrediting it. First of all, the New Testament contains a great deal of exact verbiage from the Old Testament, much of which was Jesus quoting scripture. Second, the BOM's exact wording from the New Testament are from Jesus himself, while he was pu ...[text shortened]... libility and divine validity of any of the sacred texts as they are utilized to control humans.
    The Book of Morman contradicts the Bible on many issues. Hence it cannot be inspired by God as God is not a hypocrite. His ways do not change and neither do his laws and principles change.
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    12 Jan '13 01:03
    Originally posted by galveston75
    [God's] ways do not change and neither do his laws and principles change.
    What about Mosaic Law?
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    12 Jan '13 01:09
    Originally posted by FMF
    What about Mosaic Law?
    Is that the law that says you can't have two tiles of the same colour touching?
    😀
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    12 Jan '13 01:11
    Originally posted by galveston75
    The Book of Morman contradicts the Bible on many issues. Hence it cannot be inspired by God as God is not a hypocrite. His ways do not change and neither do his laws and principles change.
    Have you read the Book of Mormon?

    The Bible contradicts itself...

    Perhaps finnegan has a valid point...
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    12 Jan '13 01:16
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    It bears an uncanny resemblance to a romantic/speculative history novel which sat on the shelves of the publishing company wherein one Joseph Smith was a janitor. If memory serves, the ex-clergyman was known as Solomon Spalding and his wanna-be book was called, Manuscript Found.
    I suppose in its defence one could say that the Lord works in mysterious ways. The Book of Revelation, for example, has similar credibility problems.
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    12 Jan '13 01:321 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Is that the law that says you can't have two tiles of the same colour touching?
    😀
    Its a law that hasn't changed, just like Galveston stated. If you can produce evidence where it has changed, then please do so.
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    12 Jan '13 01:35
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Its a law that hasn't changed, just like Galveston stated. If you can produce evidence where it has changed, then please do so.
    Does the Mosaic Law still apply?
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