Originally posted by Rajk999
Of Course I believe in everything the Bible said about Christ :
1. He is the SON of God (SON ... not God himself) sent by His Father to die for the sins of mankind.
2. Yes He rose from the dead, and is now awaiting the day when He will be sent to judge men.
3. He clearly asked his disciples to follow His teachings .. the chief of which were
- to Love ...[text shortened]... ieve all of that.
So I suggest its you who deny Christ and you are probably a Devil worshipper.
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Of Course I believe in everything the Bible said about Christ :
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LIE # 1: Evasion and slimmy way of saying that you pick and choose what your opinion is about what Christ said.
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1. He is the SON of God (SON ... not God himself) sent by His Father to die for the sins of mankind.
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Partial lie. You do not accept all that Christ said about Himself. And you do not accept what His apostles followed Him in saying about Himself.
You ignorantly think you know more about Jesus than Apostles John, Peter, and Paul.
You think John needs to sit at your feet and be properly educated as to the Person of Christ.
Still no clear confession that Jesus either died or rose from the dead.
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2. Yes He rose from the dead, and is now awaiting the day when He will be sent to judge men.
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OK. Now I just may have to retract my accusation. Apparently, you confess that the Son of God Jesus did rise from the dead.
Then if I have wronged you on this point I apologize publically. I'll be watching closely to make sure we are talking about the same thing.
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3. He clearly asked his disciples to follow His teachings .. the chief of which were
- to Love God and
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Rather selective. General enough to appear harmless.
Christ taught that He was the Old Testament God incarnated.
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- LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR as thyself.
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Seemingly general and harmless.
But you deny the divinity of Christ. You think you have the real inside story that the Word was not God?
Christ identifies Himself as the Old Testament God incarnate -
"Truly, truly, I say to you before Abraham came into being I AM." (John 8:58)
When the Apostle John wrote that the Word was God (John 1:1) and that the Word became flesh (1:14), he invented no new truth. He was simply expressing in other words what Jesus Christ had taught about Himself. He was the I AM Who spoke to Moses - Jehovah God in the book of Exodus.
Your great error lies in trying to persuade us that John needs to learn from you about his mistakes. I think you think YOU should have written the Gospel rather than John. Utterly foolish.
"I believe everything Jesus SAID in the New Testament" is often code words for "I don't believe the word of His twelve apostles".
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He acutally said nothing about Bible study and going to church.
He said volumes about helping the poor and doing good works as a necessary requirement for salvation.
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LIE # 2
He told the disciples that if they had a problem between them that they could not solve they were to
TAKE IT TO THE CHURCH *Matt. 18:17
Taking it to the church involves GOING to a church. Of course the church is a community of believers and not a physical buildnig.
Anyway
Matthew 18:17 means going to a practical church body. So you err completely to say Jesus did not teach about going to church.
I never said a church was a physical building. But it is an entity one can GO TO and take a problem for a solution.
Nice try.