Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo this is a no then on the "gaps" thing?
Seriously? As if:
they haven't been numerated, renumerated, nrenumerated beyond counting
you don't know
spelling them out here would yield anything remotely close to agreement
you (or any other diehard) would change their mind when faced with the same
...as if!
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe only gaps you have identified go something along the lines of "I refuse to give it any credance and prefer to try and belittle this theory, so therefore it must be false."
The many gaps evident within the theory of evolution demand a suspension of belief.
Sorry Freaky, but you're posts on this subject are rapidly becoming a joke. You've tried belittleing abiogenesis, trying to force confusion where there is little on the part of the scientific community. True, some people think bolide impact may have had some effect on the genesis of life but personally, i don't think so, nor is it a mainstream idea in science. You've tried to question a primeval "soup". Personally, I don't like this term, I think it's obfuscatory, but again to little avail. All the while you've presented precisely no evidence to back up your viewpoint whatsoever.
Originally posted by NosracI'll post an answer (for a third time) after you go away and learn how to read them. Until then, stop posting!
So, what's YOUR answer?
GOD knows what your are going to think BEFORE you even think it.
Think about that.
People that post sarcasm and crude remarks, OTHER THAN ANSWERS,
are not worth my time, but I will pray for YOU.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHWhat are those logical gaps?
Far be it from me to answer for KJ, but...
Your post presupposes that only the totally informed should have an opinion on any matter. If only the totally informed were to have opinions, these forums would be reduced to about a page and a half for all subject matters.
Additionally, one need not know everything relative to a field in order to detect i ...[text shortened]... t require a total understanding of the entire formula in order to point out the gaps themselves.
EDIT - I see Freaky's unwilling to disclose them. So, he makes a claim and won't back it up. I wonder if someone who was FULL OF CRAP might approach this issue the same way?
Originally posted by NosracThere are conflicting accounts for a start:
FAIR ENOUGH
POST IT
AND I'LL LEAVE.
DO NOT POST WHY THE BIBLE IS WRONG
AND I'LL REMAIN
GOOD LUCK
Genesis has two different versions of the creation.
The 4 gospels offer conflicting accounts of the Jesus story.
if you want some detail I'm happy to chase it up. And there are many more.
Not that any conflict surprises me since we're talking about a book that is actually a conglomeration of many books written over a significant period of time by a number of different authors. Anyone who got that all straight would have to be a god.
66 Books in the Bible
66 chapters in the book of Isaiah
Amen!
Yes! GOD did write the Bible through Jesus Christ and the
Holy Spirit (not ghost, he's not a ghost).
GOD sent Jesus Christ to die for all of our sins.
Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit as our guide.
The writers of the Bible wrote what they wrote with the
help of the Spirit.
What parts of creation are disturbing to you?
Originally posted by Nosrac66 neurons in your head.
66 Books in the Bible
66 chapters in the book of Isaiah
Amen!
Yes! GOD did write the Bible through Jesus Christ and the
Holy Spirit (not ghost, he's not a ghost).
GOD sent Jesus Christ to die for all of our sins.
Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit as our guide.
The writers of the Bible wrote what they wrote with the
help of the Spirit.
What parts of creation are disturbing to you?
Hallelujah!
Yee haw!
There's nothing disturbing me since it's an allegorical work.
You should look that one up Carson - a l l e g o r i c a l .... you'll be amazed. The Holy Spirit will enter you and lift you up to sit at the seat with the Lord.
Amen!!!!
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Originally posted by amannionI've been beating the drum of one for some time and I'm still
Okay, let's settle this right now ...
Where and what are the "gaps" you and many others seem to think are obvious? In fact, what do you mean by "gaps" at all?
It seems to me that "gaps" is just shorthand for "I don't believe it's correct so I will denigrate it any way I can". Now if that's the case, then tell us that. If not, and you are trully aware of ...[text shortened]... s or incorrect logic or whatever it is these "gaps" are, the please fill me in ...
waiting for someone to clear it up!
Small changes in DNA, the claim they add up is an important
point that cannot be just accepted as some here want, when
they rolled out, "There is no good reason to not believe it."
As I have pointed out before, seeing them and knowing what
is going on is not the same thing!
In humans are these changes in DNA adding up to something
different, or are they corrections, simply minor changes which
keeps us from being anything other than human, or none of
the above?
Kelly
Originally posted by TheSkipperI've not asked for any scientific discovery to be dimissed that was
I don’t know Kelly. I have known a few scientists in my day and they seem to take their work very seriously. They tend; in fact, to be very serious people in general and usually have a pretty serious intellect to go with it. My sister in law, for instance, is a scientist. She attends Church every Sunday and quite frankly it would be much easier for he ...[text shortened]... s some degree of faith. People in glass houses, my friend…people in glass houses.
TheSkipper
made due to evolutionary theory. Who cares if the theory is correct
or not, if it caused us to discover something because of it? So why
would you say I have major issues with reality? My complaint isn't
that people are using faith and their beliefs, my complaint is that
they are doing it while denying it. I have not asked that the theory
get thrown out, care to point to one place during the full time I have
been here, where I have said as much? My point is that because it
has major points of faith not facts backing it up, that should be
acknowleged.
Kelly
Originally posted by NosracAlready done it twice.
FAIR ENOUGH
POST IT
AND I'LL LEAVE.
DO NOT POST WHY THE BIBLE IS WRONG
AND I'LL REMAIN
GOOD LUCK
Genesis states that land plants were created before the sun. The sun is 6 billion years old, land plants only about 400 million years old, heck, the planet is only 4.5 billion years old!
Genesis states that flying animals (out of generousity for your cause I'll include pterodactyls) were created before land dwelling animals. Again, not the case. The earliest non-insectiod flight didn't come about until ~150 million years ago.
Here is a good link which explains the main problems with biblical creation and why it's incompatible with the bible. http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0404order.asp
Originally posted by KellyJayI've never seen a million dollars. I have however seen $10. Am I not to assume that given enough $10 that someone could have a million dollars?
I've been beating the drum of one for some time and I'm still
waiting for someone to clear it up!
Small changes in DNA, the claim they add up is an important
point that cannot be just accepted as some here want, when
they rolled out, "There is no good reason to not believe it."
As I have pointed out before, seeing them and knowing what
is going on ...[text shortened]... changes which
keeps us from being anything other than human, or none of
the above?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIn your whole lifetime you won't see even 3 millionths of 1% of the time required for the current organisms on the planet to evolve. Why do you think that we should be able to see it in real time?? What's your fascination with seeing everything with your own eyes before you will accept it? Indeed, it seems hypocritical since you cannot, and will never, see your god.
I've been beating the drum of one for some time and I'm still
waiting for someone to clear it up!
Small changes in DNA, the claim they add up is an important
point that cannot be just accepted as some here want, when
they rolled out, "There is no good reason to not believe it."
As I have pointed out before, seeing them and knowing what
is going on ...[text shortened]... changes which
keeps us from being anything other than human, or none of
the above?
Kelly
I work relatively routinely with a machine called an Infra-red gas analyser. It tells me based upon the difference in CO2 concentration when a stream of air is passed over a leaf how fast the plant is photosynthesizing. I cannot see the CO2 molecules being taken up. I cannot see the plant grow. Should I maintain the position that neither of these processes are happening since I cannot physically see them???