29 Mar 06
Originally posted by buckkyThe fact that none of them can get their story straight indicates very strongly that none of them knows what they're talking about. How many denominations of christianity are there? Then how many other religions are there and how many denominations do they have? It's ludicrous that anyone could take any of them seriously.
Which one of the many Christian Denominations has the correct Truth ? Why so many ? Is there confusion in the Christian faith ?
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by buckkyI think what it demonstrates is that the Christian faith like all religions is interpreted by people. Those on this forum who claim any particular denomination or version represents absolute truth are delusional.
Which one of the many Christian Denominations has the correct Truth ? Why so many ? Is there confusion in the Christian faith ?
Which isn't to say that Christians are delusional, I know and work with many - most of whom are pretty great people. But so are many of the atheists, jews, muslims, buddhists and others that I know ....
What does that tell you?
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by rwingettReligions by nature tend to be complex deductive systems and therefore are flawed by their own logic as they rely on the solution of some open-ended question.
The fact that none of them can get their story straight indicates very strongly that none of them knows what they're talking about. How many denominations of christianity are there? Then how many other religions are there and how many denominations do they have? It's ludicrous that anyone could take any of them seriously.
"Any adequate axiomatizable theory is incomplete. In particular the sentence "This sentence is not provable" is true but not provable in the theory."
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by ChessJesterWhich is true but does't really explain why so many people believe in any of the multitude of religious faiths. In the end you've got to go beyond logic and reasoning to understand that religion fulfills a particular need for many people.
Religions by nature tend to be complex deductive systems and therefore are flawed by their own logic as they rely on the solution of some open-ended question.
"Any adequate axiomatizable theory is incomplete. In particular the sentence "This sentence is not provable" is true but not provable in the theory."
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by amannionBecause they are too afraid to fulfill it themselves.... religion thrives off fear.
Which is true but does't really explain why so many people believe in any of the multitude of religious faiths. In the end you've got to go beyond logic and reasoning to understand that religion fulfills a particular need for many people.
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by ChessJesterI'm not so sure it's fear.
Because they are too afraid to fulfill it themselves.... religion thrives off fear.
Or at least not for all.
I think many religious people fulfill their needs because they don't know how else to do so - that is, having been brought up within a religion it seems obvious to use that background.
29 Mar 06
Originally posted by amannionI agree with you... people just want to feel accepted and loved... I love you! 😀
I'm not so sure it's fear.
Or at least not for all.
I think many religious people fulfill their needs because they don't know how else to do so - that is, having been brought up within a religion it seems obvious to use that background.
But hey, the way I see it is if you love yourself and others and you accept yourself and others then so will the others onto you.
30 Mar 06
Originally posted by ChessJesterThanks CJ, I love you too 😉
I agree with you... people just want to feel accepted and loved... I love you! 😀
But hey, the way I see it is if you love yourself and others and you accept yourself and others then so will the others onto you.
Was that a typo or did you mean 'onto'?
I'm interested in this idea of others getting 'onto' me. Sounds great.
30 Mar 06
Originally posted by buckkyIf you believe in the Bible and in Christ then you need to believe what Christ said as he is the only authority on Christianity. Modern religions have screwed up the teachings of Christ and added stuff to it which Christ never taught. They have done this because of the basic flaws inherent in all of mankind, greed & the desire for power. So I suggest you be cautious when joining any church as some have the tendency to turn you into a fanatic.
Which one of the many Christian Denominations has the correct Truth ? Why so many ? Is there confusion in the Christian faith ?
Christ was never a fanatic, he was humble and hung out with the lowlifes and drunks and the common ordinary folk of his time. You might be surprised to find out that he never commanded anyone to attend a church. Most of his teachings centered around the 'love thy neighbour' principle, and its how well we are able to help the poor, feed the hungry, take care of the unfortunate around us, is what is going to determine whether or not we get salvation. It has nothing to do with attending church or which church is correct.
Read Matt 25 v 31-46.
30 Mar 06
Originally posted by buckkyThere is no true Denomination.
Which one of the many Christian Denominations has the correct Truth ? Why so many ? Is there confusion in the Christian faith ?
The only Truth is Christ Jesus.
John 14:6
You can go to any Church you want but if you do not have a personal relationship with Christ it mean nothing. Acts 4:12
Romans 10:13 and Acts 2:21 say call on the Lord; it doesn't say call on a religion or denomination.
30 Mar 06
Originally posted by amannionThat tells me that being Good doesn't get you to heaven.
I think what it demonstrates is that the Christian faith like all religions is interpreted by people. Those on this forum who claim any particular denomination or version represents absolute truth are delusional.
Which isn't to say that Christians are delusional, I know and work with many - most of whom are pretty great people. But so are many of the atheists, jews, muslims, buddhists and others that I know ....
What does that tell you?
30 Mar 06
We fight on methods of baptism, the 6 day creation, the rapture/tribulation. This is where people choose to separate themselves to call themselves Baptists or Lutherans or whatever else is out there.
The point we agree on is that "The father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world." and "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt have faith." and "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the father except through me."
The denominations really are made up of the small disagreements, and each denomination runs their church under a bit of a different contitution. If we had one wish, we'd all wish that God would come down and tell us exactly what he wants us to do, but until then, there will be different people interpreting the Word different ways.