Originally posted by scottishinnz
Okay, I can appreciate your position.
It sounds to me a lot like you have built up a lot of reasons to justify your belief. I bet you didn't start to believe based upon logic, but rather based upon something else (parental control, perhaps).
We have discussed your proofs from Daniel before, but they needed a lot of interpretation and flexibility ...[text shortened]... what proof, could ever prove to you that God does not, in fact, exist and is merely a delusion?
That is just it, there is no one arguement to get me to renounce my faith. To say that there is one arguement that could make me not believe in God would be to say that my faith is based upon an arguement which is in itself a fallacy. Having said that, I think what you are asking is what we all wonder about here. What single bit of evidence or reason has caused you to believe for or against God? That, of coarse, is assuming there is one single bit of evidence. I am not smart enough really to answer this quesiton and neither are you. Therefore, lets here what Christ said about the matter.
Christ used the parable of the sower sowing seed by throwing it on the ground. The seed represents the word of the kingdom of God. Some fell by the wayside and fowls came down and devoured it. Some fell on stony ground and there was no earth to support its life and the sun scorched it to death. Some fell among thorns and it choked the plants as they came up. However, some fell on good ground and it produced much fruit.
Now the first example of seed falling by the wayside represents those who hear the word of the kingdom of God and does not understand it. Then the Wicked one comes and snatches away the word given to them. Those that received the seed in a stony place represent those who hear the word and recieve it with joy but after a while of tribulation or persecution they become offended at the word they had recieved with joy at one time but then decide to reject it. Those that fell among thorns represent those that recieve the word and become a plant but are choked by the cares of this life and the decitfulness of riches and they become unfruitful. However, those that become a plant and later produce fruit are those that hear the word, understands the word, and through perseverance and focus continues in that word to produce what is desired.
Now if Christ is accurate in his analysis of faith, I have already recieved the word and understood the word of the kingdom of God. Therefore, the Wicked one was unable to snatch the word from me through unbelief etc. Therefore, all that remains is for persecution to arise and/or great riches to be given to me to try and snatch the word from me. This is assuming, of coarse, that Christ's analysis is accurate. Could this be done by a mere arugement? I don't think so.
Edit: If you are willing, you could approach me by tempting me with great riches. I could give you a P.O. box number through which you could mail me a check. 😛