Why are Christians under attack ?

-Removed-

So you are part of a group despite the fact that you said and I quote verbatim, 'Being part of a "group" has no appeal to me'. A rather strange and illogical statement, self contradictory too. What is this group of yours called.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
So you are part of a group despite the fact that you said and I quote verbatim, 'Being part of a "group" has no appeal to me'. A rather strange and illogical statement, self contradictory too. What is this group of yours called.

There are potentially multiple meanings of the word 'group' at play here.

For example, there is the meaning that is similar to the word 'set' from mathematics.

For example I am a member of the set [group] of all atheists.

However I am not a member of any atheist 'groups', using a different meaning of the word
group that could be similar to the words club, or organisation.

There are many theists [Christians] who share similar beliefs and practices, but don't
[either at all, or very often] go to church and who are not members of any formal religious
group.

Thus you can group them together based on their shared similarities without any of the members
of that set necessarily being members of a formal religious group.


I do not know if that was what was meant in this case. I am simply demonstrating that the statements
are by no means necessarily contradictory.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Even as an atheist, who doesn't believe in 'the lake of fire', 'i' object to you saying such a thing to another human being. Who are you to 'inform' anybody that they 'deserve' to go to hell; especially when you do believe such a place exists. As a Christian i think you should apologize immediately for those unwarranted comments. But hey, that's just the opinion of an atheist.

"But hey, that's just the opinion of an atheist."
Yes, Ghost of a Duke, which you are certainly entitled to choose; and please remember that life decisions have eternal consequences.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
and please remember that life decisions have eternal consequences.

prove it.

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"But hey, that's just the opinion of an atheist."
Yes, Ghost of a Duke, which you are certainly entitled to choose; and please remember that life decisions have eternal consequences.

Curious you should quote just that part of my post and say nothing of my condemnation of a Christian informing someone that they deserved to go to hell.

So perhaps, while i am remembering that life decisions have eternal consequences, you can work on your priorities.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
and yet the Bible states, that Christians are a 'holy nation'. That either makes you a non Christian or a one man nation. Jesus himself stated you will know you are my disciples by the love you have among yourselves. Can you tell us how is it possible to you have love among 'yourselves', when you are only a single entity?

Stop posturing, for God's sake.

You yourself have no 'love for your Christian brothers' by insisting that they are not 'Christian', you don't even recognize them as such.

So how do you get off telling ANYone to 'have love among yourselves'? You have proven that you consistently ignore this commandment.

Originally posted by googlefudge
prove it.

It can only be proven form the words of the Holy Bible, but I am sure you would not accept that proof since you claim to be an evolution believing atheist that despises the teachings from the Holy Bible.

Originally posted by RJHinds
And can not we show our love amoung one another by our attempt to correct our brothers errors so we all follow the narrow way that leads to eternal life instead of the broad way that leads to eternal damnation? Does that always have to be considered a hateful judgmental attack?

It can be and is, when you use your own narrow definitions of what the Bible says to put down others who do not ascribe to your narrow definitions.

The 'narrow way' does not mean 'elitism', by the way. "I'm on the narrow way and you're not, neener, neener, neener."

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Even as an atheist, who doesn't believe in 'the lake of fire', 'i' object to you saying such a thing to another human being. Who are you to 'inform' anybody that they 'deserve' to go to hell; especially when you do believe such a place exists. As a Christian i think you should apologize immediately for those unwarranted comments. But hey, that's just the opinion of an atheist.

Since you do not believe in the Lake if Fire and Brimstone, I would expect you to just laugh it off as the comments of one from the lunatic fringe. Googlefudge is not offended, so why should you be?

Originally posted by FMF
What makes you say this? Surely you can see that it is the behaviour of some of His followers here that I take issue with. Why would I 'tie Christ to a whipping post'? When I criticize people like you or RJHinds, I am criticizing you for the way you carry on, not Christ for his teachings.

Every time you attack his followers, you attack Christ. I thought that was clear from what I said.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I consult several versions. Which version of the Holy Bible do you use?

That has zero to do with what I said.

Originally posted by googlefudge
prove it.

"Vos existimantur cogitare, Antequam vos infringere regulas.

If you believe in a god or gods and claim to know it or they exist then you're a "gnostic theist".

If you believe in a god or gods and don't know if it or they exist then you're an "agnostic theist".

If you don't believe in a god or gods and don't know if it or they exist then you're an "agnostic atheist".

If you don't believe in a god or gods and claim to know if it or they doesn't exist then you're a "gnostic atheist".

http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/ @googlefudge

Originally posted by googlefudge
prove it.
________

You've obviously already deliberated over the outside 3-Sigma possibility that life decisions in time have eternal consequences. What's to prove?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Since you do not believe in the Lake if Fire and Brimstone, I would expect you to just laugh it off as the comments of one from the lunatic fringe. Googlefudge is not offended, so why should you be?

The point is, 'you' do believe it, which is what makes your remarks despicable. (Though i agree, they are from the lunatic fringe).

Originally posted by Suzianne
It can be and is, when you use your own narrow definitions of what the Bible says to put down others who do not ascribe to your narrow definitions.

The 'narrow way' does not mean 'elitism', by the way. "I'm on the narrow way and you're not, neener, neener, neener."

I am sorry to see you believe that way about me. 🙁

Originally posted by Suzianne
That has zero to do with what I said.

Sorry about that. I guess your choice of words in communication is not always clear to me.