Originally posted by duecerAnd may I add....
To my friends of faith:
You will never convince an atheist that God exists, it is a fruitless time consuming waist of effort. The notion of faith is foreign to them, they act only on what they know to be certain. Trying to “convince” them that the bible is true, by using the bible as a source is called a tautology, and logically can never accomplish what y ...[text shortened]... d offer the idea that perhaps not arguing makes the world a better place. Peace be with you all.
The only silly arguement for the atheist that God doesnt exist, is that they say theres no proof or evidence.
Before a person can have an intimate relationship with the Personality of Godhead they have to raise their consciousness to the transcendental platform of love of God, and without this requirement then perceiving God will never happen, and to raise ones cosciousness there is a process of purification of heart mind and body.
Also the person must acquire transcendental knowledge to be rightly situated with their perceptions and beliefs.
Because in this world we are all covered by illusion, we must be able to see correctly, and our deeds, words and thoughts create our reality, so if we constantly speak think and act, as if there is no God, then that will be our reality that there is no God.
Even being firmly fixed in atheism, is no exuse to not be able to appreciate the world we find ourselves in, and any honest person, even an atheist, can see that the entire cosmos has been created and has been desighned to give mankind unlimited opportunity to live a full life, and to not see this is the greatest dishonesty.
There is abundant evidence all around us, with recent discoveries of the complexity of biology and the wonder of the amazing galaxys that surround us, is all the evidence we need, and with that observation one may start their spiritual journey knowing full well that the Lord within the heart shall be their eternal guide and friend.
Having started the spiritual life, faith becomes knowing very quickly, and one becomes fixed and immoveable in their loving sentiments to the Lord, who remains their eternal friend and wellwisher.
So there is no reason to not accept the Lord, knowing full well that everything in existence has been created and is maintained by the all loving and wonderfull Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Turning away from this undeniable reality, is the choice of the selfish, puffed up dishonest persons, who only deny the reality of God so as to lord it over this world.
Originally posted by karoly aczelMentally viewing the nightmare that enthralls my state of being, I carry along an iron bat, and club the snot out of demons on a regular basis, however, I am not a violent man, rather would LOVE to FIGHT the fight OUT OF fight! period
Yes and until then we must remain vigilant. With sticks if need be
Originally posted by tacoandlettuceMe not violent either. i hope I dont ever have to be...
Mentally viewing the nightmare that enthralls my state of being, I carry along an iron bat, and club the snot out of demons on a regular basis, however, I am not a violent man, rather would LOVE to FIGHT the fight OUT OF fight! period
Originally posted by duecerI don't agree.
To my friends of faith:
You will never convince an atheist that God exists, it is a fruitless time consuming waist of effort. The notion of faith is foreign to them, they act only on what they know to be certain. Trying to “convince” them that the bible is true, by using the bible as a source is called a tautology, and logically can never accomplish what y ...[text shortened]... d offer the idea that perhaps not arguing makes the world a better place. Peace be with you all.
Your reply, and you will find I am again without clicking "reply"e" as we obviously are chatting back and forth now. If it were to reply to a different post from our convo I would click the "r&q" clarifying it is for such.
It's not you or the fella duecer I was referring to, but it's within each of us, the cloud as written is upon all mankind, and you can find in "Isaiah 51:12-16 (King James Version)"...