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    16 Dec '11 14:54
    Originally posted by stoker
    its use is more inporant than the name. will it be a killer or a cure
    So we can call it the Shiva particle, and noone will object? Problem solved?

    The thing is that the Higgs particle has nothing to do with religion, none whatsoever!
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    16 Dec '11 17:14
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    So we can call it the Shiva particle, and noone will object? Problem solved?

    The thing is that the Higgs particle has nothing to do with religion, none whatsoever!
    nothing to do with religion..... other than gods creation of
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    16 Dec '11 18:301 edit
    Originally posted by stoker
    nothing to do with religion..... other than gods creation of
    The Higgs particle, sorry, I mean the Shiva particle isn't mentionned in the bible. Neither is evolution. Either both is within the creation, or neither.
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    17 Dec '11 09:51
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre7bc28h-us-higgs-god/

    Only one scientist called it that and the media ran with it.
    Because if god is a particle then God is not God; God is a scientific discovery and an editors dream story.
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    17 Dec '11 09:591 edit
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    The Higgs particle, sorry, I mean the Shiva particle isn't mentionned in the bible. Neither is evolution. Either both is within the creation, or neither.
    in the begining god made.. six of his days.. god gave man the authority to name all things so if someone wants to call something god made he has no problem with that
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    17 Dec '11 11:261 edit
    Is the Higgs particle the same thing as what Gel Mann called "Omega Minus" ?

    I forgot, I think.

    Nope probably. Omega Minus is old stuff going back to the 60s !

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    17 Dec '11 12:26
    Originally posted by stoker
    in the begining god made.. six of his days.. god gave man the authority to name all things so if someone wants to call something god made he has no problem with that
    Some one even dared name "shiva-the destroyer"

    That guy must've had some balls
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    17 Dec '11 13:38
    Originally posted by stoker
    in the begining god made.. six of his days.. god gave man the authority to name all things so if someone wants to call something god made he has no problem with that
    And that's religion, not science.

    Higg's particle is heavy science. If you can believe in this particle, then evolution is not a problem, as it is much easy to explain than the Higgs field and particle.

    You wouldn't care if it was named "The Shiva Particle"? Thought so.
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    17 Dec '11 15:57
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    And that's religion, not science.

    Higg's particle is heavy science. If you can believe in this particle, then evolution is not a problem, as it is much easy to explain than the Higgs field and particle.

    You wouldn't care if it was named "The Shiva Particle"? Thought so.
    never had a problem with he name stated this at the outset. science is the discovery of gods creation, evolution is the growth of the world god created
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    17 Dec '11 16:51
    Originally posted by stoker
    never had a problem with he name stated this at the outset. science is the discovery of gods creation, evolution is the growth of the world god created
    You say, gods creation, but don't mentin which god. Any god? Shiva perhaps?
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    17 Dec '11 17:11
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre7bc28h-us-higgs-god/

    Only one scientist called it that and the media ran with it.
    Isn't it wonderful how God can amaze those that claim to be wise
    and dumbfound them with the small things.
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    17 Dec '11 20:02
    Originally posted by stoker
    never had a problem with he name stated this at the outset. science is the discovery of gods creation, evolution is the growth of the world god created
    Your gods creation is not science. Higgs particle is. Your religion cannot ever be science. Why pretend it is?
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    17 Dec '11 20:19
    Originally posted by stoker
    never had a problem with he name stated this at the outset. science is the discovery of gods creation, evolution is the growth of the world god created
    Indeed. Well stated.
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    17 Dec '11 20:22
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Your gods creation is not science. Higgs particle is. Your religion cannot ever be science. Why pretend it is?
    People who take one side of the equation while ignoring the other side completely dumbfound me.

    Science is the how, and Religion is the why. Pretty simple, actually.
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    17 Dec '11 21:04
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Suppose the discovery of the Higgs particle, the so called god particle, can be used to prove the true age of the universe, then its very existance would be denied by YECs.
    YEC?
    So is Yorkshire the centre of the universe then?

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