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Why do atheists care. [rhet]

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When you called him on it, what problem did you see with it? What exactly is wrong with generalizations? Merely labelling it a generalization does not make it inherently wrong or bad. There must be something about it you feel was wrong or bad. Can you describe that without simply repeating 'its a generalization'?




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You do that. Given that you keep asking the same questions and getting the exact same answers I suggest you get your memory checked too.

I've been saying it is a generalisation from the beginning and so have you. Sounds like we agree which is strange after so many pages of arguing.
Yes, it is strange. I wonder why you just can't seem to get past repeating over and over 'It's a generalization' and never actually get to the point as to why you think that matters. Perhaps because doing so might require admitting you are wrong?

I also don't particularly care about definitions, but it was you who brought "definitions" into the fray, which is also strange considering you are apparently so well known for not hold them in much regard.
I never said I don't care about definitions. They are clearly important for good communication. I only brought it into the fray because it was clear that different people were using different definitions.
What I am well known for is saying that definitions cannot be used to make a logical argument - an error theists frequently make in this forum.


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So it being a generalization doesn't actually matter to you at all? Nothing at all wrong with that? It is only the claim that it was supported by one example that is an issue?

Are you now satisfied that he was not, as you original claimed "using this one incident to generalise against and stereotype billions of Christians"?
I think that it has been firmly established that that is not the case.
Do you still deny it?
Do you also think the earth is flat?
Is the horizon always at eye level?
Will you continue to make a fool of yourself rather than utter three simple words: 'I was wrong'?

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No actually, it isn't. As has been pointed out to you many many times over the course of the thread.

Saying the Earth is flat 100 times wont make it so.


It matters because being a generalisation,
What exactly about 'being a generalization'? Which definition are you drawing on for this and which aspect of the definition. As I have said multiple times already, merely giving something a label has exactly zero evidential value.

it missrepresents those Christians who do not frequently harp on about being persecuted.
It would if it was about all Christians. It isn't. And being a generalization doesn't make it so, unless your definition of 'generalization' is 'a statement about all members of a group' in which case it isn't a generalization.

It's not dificult.
Then why do you keep refusing to explain your position and refusing to answer any question that might highlight the problems with your position, and spending whole pages trying to sideline the discussion?

I've nothing to admit to being wrong about. Silly jibes about a flat earth just underline your need to insult and belittle.
They just underline my need to point out how silly you are being refusing to accept something right in front of your face all because you have difficulty admitting when you are wrong.

So what is your issue - that is not about Christians or that the one example is more than one example?
I have two issues with your claim:
1. The statement is not about all Christians.
2. It is not argued that the statement is true based on one example.

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Yes, we all wish we were richer. Having a £ for every time I said it still wouldn't make me wrong.
Why don't you actually explain why I am wrong rather than simply saying repeating it 'doesn't make you right'? Oh yes, I know why, because you know I am right.

It's as though you think that rereading your own words gives them some sort of validity - a bit like Grampy Bobby reposting all his stuff.
I, unlike Grampy, am willing to discuss things and get to the bottom of them.

So tell us, what makes you think the sentence refers to all Christians? Also, explain why you are apparently the only person who thinks that whereas every other person who has commented on it disagrees. Have you considered the possibility that your grasp of the English language may be not quite as good as you thought?


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Which post. Please quote it here. I know from experience with Lemon lime that if I simply go back and read the post I think you are referring to you will deny that that was the one and tell me to go find another and another in the hope I will never find it. Is copy/paste really that difficult?

Having to explain to you why it is not a good idea to generalise (you admit it was a generalisation, right) about an entire religious group (Christians) is astonishing.
Yet for some reason you seam incapable of doing it. Cat got your tongue?


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