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Why Folks Hate God

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Spirituality 08 Jan '12 16:00
  1. Standard membergooglefudge
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    15 Jan '12 20:44
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    I'm not sure something this facile can even qualify as sophistry!
    Why I went with nonsense...
  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    16 Jan '12 00:37
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    I'm not sure something this facile can even qualify as sophistry!
    Right, but is qualifies as the truth.
  3. Standard membergooglefudge
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    16 Jan '12 00:42
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Right, but is qualifies as the truth.
    So you hate every single other god concept other than your version of the god of the bible?

    Including all the ones you have never heard of or thought about?
  4. Standard memberRJHinds
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    16 Jan '12 01:22
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    So you hate every single other god concept other than your version of the god of the bible?

    Including all the ones you have never heard of or thought about?
    There is only one God to love or hate. I love Him because He first
    loved me. There are no other gods for me to hate. 😏
  5. Standard membergooglefudge
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    16 Jan '12 01:24
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There is only one God to love or hate. I love Him because He first
    loved me. There are no other gods for me to hate. 😏
    I said god concept.

    You can't deny that there are concepts of god other than that of the god of the bible.

    Otherwise the bible wouldn't specifically mention that you shouldn't worship any of them.

    So, I ask the questions again.

    So you hate every single other god concept other than your version of the god of the bible?

    Including all the ones you have never heard of or thought about?
  6. Standard memberRJHinds
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    16 Jan '12 01:42
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    I said god concept.

    You can't deny that there are concepts of god other than that of the god of the bible.

    Otherwise the bible wouldn't specifically mention that you shouldn't worship any of them.

    So, I ask the questions again.

    So you hate every single other god concept other than your version of the god of the bible?

    Including all the ones you have never heard of or thought about?
    Oh, you mean other concepts of different types of so-called gods other
    than the true God of the Holy Bible. Since I don't believe in these other
    concepts of gods, I would not say I hate them, I just don't like the idea
    of them and certainly would not intentionally worship them.
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    16 Jan '12 01:48
    Originally posted by Ullr
    Oh you can see Satan just fine if you are able to procure the blood of a virgin and recite the proper incantations at the appropriate hour. lol - sorry it's late at night and I've had a few. You people make me laugh.
    You've got the wrong guy. I would never do those things...
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    16 Jan '12 02:041 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Oh, you mean other concepts of different types of so-called gods other
    than the true God of the Holy Bible. Since I don't believe in these other
    concepts of gods, I would not say I hate them, I just don't like the idea
    of them and certainly would not intentionally worship them.
    Right, well in that case you can't support the OP's premise that to not believe in god is to
    hate god.

    As exactly the reasoning you just espoused applies to anyone who doesn't think your god
    is real just as you don't think anyone else's god is real.

    Thus you don't think that the OP is true, thus this post...

    "Right, but i[t] qualifies as the truth."

    is wrong because even you don't agree with the OP.
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    16 Jan '12 03:36
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Right, well in that case you can't support the OP's premise that to not believe in god is to
    hate god.

    As exactly the reasoning you just espoused applies to anyone who doesn't think your god
    is real just as you don't think anyone else's god is real.

    Thus you don't think that the OP is true, thus this post...

    [b]"Right, but i[t] qualifies as the truth."

    is wrong because even you don't agree with the OP.[/b]
    WRONG
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    16 Jan '12 03:59
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Since I don't believe in these other concepts of gods, I would not say I hate them...
    Surely you agree that whatever you claim "the purest form of hatred for God" is, it would - at the very least - have to involve acknowledging the existence of God?
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    16 Jan '12 10:574 edits
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b] WRONG[/b]
    When you have been argued into an intellectual contradiction, simply posting this suggests that you cannot find a counter argument, or that you have realised your mistake but cannot admit to it. Putting it in capitals and bold only serves to support this view.

    The OP said that denial of God is the same as hating him. You have said that, as you do not believe in other gods, you do not hate them. We are saming the same of your God. Refine your position or accept your mistake.

    I suspect your position is that it is different because your God is the real God, but you know we won't let you off the hook on that one.

    Even if you put it in bold and capitals.

    The self-contented smiley, of course, remains a clinching argument, and so far your strongest 😏
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    16 Jan '12 18:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Oh, you mean other concepts of different types of so-called gods other
    than the true God of the Holy Bible. Since I don't believe in these other
    concepts of gods, I would not say I hate them, I just don't like the idea
    of them and certainly would not intentionally worship them.
    Josephw says that if you don't believe in these other gods, this is the purest form of hatred towards them. You said you don't believe in them... then you said you didn't hate them... so that means you're agreeing with us. So why are you still arguing?
  13. Standard membergooglefudge
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    16 Jan '12 22:58
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b] WRONG[/b]
    You must think that...

    A) Either not believing in the existence of a god is to hate that god...

    In which case you must hate any and all other god concepts other than the one you believe in.

    Or

    B) Not believing in the existence of a god doesn't mean you hate that god...

    In which case you don't agree that the premise of the OP is true.



    There are no other positions. They are exclusive and exhaustive.


    If you don't agree with this then you have gone past the point at which your words
    carry any meaning since they are not following any accepted rules of logic and thus
    are nonsensical and unintelligible.


    So do you agree with the OP, and hate ALL other possible god concepts including those you
    have never heard of...

    Or, do you not hate all other god concepts and thus think the OP is false and thus not truth?
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    16 Jan '12 23:111 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge (in response to RJHinds)
    You must think ...

    ?
    Googlefudge; you are flogging a dead horse!

    Especially with the opening to your last post to RJH.











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    16 Jan '12 23:31
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Googlefudge; you are flogging a dead horse!

    Especially with the opening to your last post to RJH.











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    You are probably right, but I am giving RJHinds every possible chance to engage reasonably,
    before I eventually give up and ignore him (assuming he doesn't start engaging rationally)
    because I would like a cast iron, bullet proof case for asserting that there is no point in talking
    to him before I take that step.

    Failure to be able to reasonably answer this point might do it.
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