1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    18 Aug '11 07:17
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you didn't know there were really 10,000 arks? Noah could not have been expected to carry 2 of EVERY beast so the job was split among the 10,000 arks. God assigned each one a different set of species and the food that would last 40 days and 40 nights.

    That part of the bible got lost during the flood, the missing chapter........
    Oh dear Sonhouse you really should study your bible better! 😉
    There were not TWO of EVERY animal ... thats just a simplification for children at indoctrination lessonsl (whoops I meant Sunday school).
    I think they were in 2s, 3s and 5s depending on how valuable they were to the writers of the bible (whoops - I meant god)

    Just thought I'd beat the theists to it. (Surprised RJH didnt say anything ... maybe he is not a biblical scholar afterall?)
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    18 Aug '11 07:17
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Blood does not save persons who sin.

    If you want to be saved from taking birth in this world of suffering you must raise the consciousness to a level where you do not desire to sin and therefore do not sin.

    All the blood in China will not raise the consciousness.

    You must raise the consciousness to the platform of love of God, and you do this by embrac ...[text shortened]... nd join our church.

    God cannot suffer.

    God never suffers.

    To say God suffers is absurd.
    I take it you aren't Christian.
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    18 Aug '11 07:311 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It does seem strange that the sabretooth tiger would have such teeth
    if they also were only eating vegetation before the flood. I wonder
    when did they become extinct. Was it before or after the flood?
    Maybe it was during the flood, for God would not need to perserve
    every type of tiger as he would not have to perserve every type of
    dinosaur. The dinosaurs in the sea (sea monsters, as the Bible calls
    them) could survive on their own. The Gila Monster seems to be a
    small representative of what the Bible writers might call a dragon.

    http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/dino.html
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    18 Aug '11 07:35
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Oh dear Sonhouse you really should study your bible better! 😉
    There were not TWO of EVERY animal ... thats just a simplification for children at indoctrination lessonsl (whoops I meant Sunday school).
    I think they were in 2s, 3s and 5s depending on how valuable they were to the writers of the bible (whoops - I meant god)

    Just thought I'd beat the th ...[text shortened]... ists to it. (Surprised RJH didnt say anything ... maybe he is not a biblical scholar afterall?)
    I did not feel a need to bring this small matter up. Apparently I was
    right for you supplied the information.
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    18 Aug '11 07:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I did not feel a need to bring this small matter up. Apparently I was
    right for you supplied the information.
    So the basic idea of there being 10,000 arks must be right then?
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    18 Aug '11 07:47
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So the basic idea of there being 10,000 arks must be right then?
    I would not say 10,000 because that seems extreme for what
    would be needed. However, I don't see anything that would prevent
    there being more than one ark. Do you?
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    18 Aug '11 07:49
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I would not say 10,000 because that seems extreme for what
    would be needed. However, I don't see anything that would prevent
    there being more than one ark. Do you?
    Aside from the minor problem of the earth never having suffered a world wide flood, no.

    It seems about 700 million years ago the earth may have been covered with ice, 90 percent or some such but it is pretty certain there were no humans around at that point in our evolution.
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    18 Aug '11 07:552 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Aside from the minor problem of the earth never having suffered a world wide flood, no.

    It seems about 700 million years ago the earth may have been covered with ice, 90 percent or some such but it is pretty certain there were no humans around at that point in our evolution.
    You might be interest in reading this:

    http://www.squidoo.com/noahsarkfound

    And this:

    http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
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    18 Aug '11 08:00
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You might be interest in reading this:

    http://www.squidoo.com/noahsarkfound

    And this:

    http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
    What about the genetic evidence which also shows that

    1. There was no bottleneck (large reduction in population) when the flood happened.

    2. Our population has never been lower than a few thousand pairs.

    3. We are certainly older than 6,000yrs.
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    18 Aug '11 08:13
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You might be interest in reading this:

    http://www.squidoo.com/noahsarkfound

    And this:

    http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
    I read your sites, now you read this:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

    One thing I saw on your site: It said lava moved the Arc to its present location.

    If lava hit the arc it would have burned up and buried in lava. And stayed buried.
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    18 Aug '11 08:25
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I read your sites, now you read this:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html

    One thing I saw on your site: It said lava moved the Arc to its present location.

    If lava hit the arc it would have burned up and buried in lava. And stayed buried.
    god sprayed the ark with flame retardant (which Noah had been working on for 400 years). The evidence for the retardant working is that we have all the animals alive! QED
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    18 Aug '11 08:39
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    god sprayed the ark with flame retardant (which Noah had been working on for 400 years). The evidence for the retardant working is that we have all the animals alive! QED
    * More Laughter *
    * Applause *
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    18 Aug '11 08:461 edit
    Originally posted by jaywill
    * More Laughter *
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    It does get more and more ridiculous if you start to actually analyse the whole flood myth, doesn't it!

    Did Noah use any metal in the building of his boat? Because the largest sailboats we moderns built, like 1600-1900 time frame, was around 300 feet and they had to have metal bracing and still leaked like a sieve. So how did Noah build something closer to 500 feet long without metal and robust and leakproof? Or do we just read the bible and say god did it?
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    18 Aug '11 08:52
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It does get more and more ridiculous if you start to actually analyse the whole flood myth, doesn't it!
    What is ridiculous to me is that that the God who "In the beginning ... created the heavens and the earth" would have difficulty doing whatever He wishes to do should He intend to do it.

    That you imagine you have some supposed unsurmountable obstacles preventing Him, is what is ridiculous to me.
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    18 Aug '11 09:07
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    What about the genetic evidence which also shows that

    1. There was no bottleneck (large reduction in population) when the flood happened.

    2. Our population has never been lower than a few thousand pairs.

    3. We are certainly older than 6,000yrs.
    I have always said to give it approximately 10,000 years not 6,000.
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