@kellyjay saidJesus did not just differentiate himself from the father. He differentiated himself from God. The idea that he could step out and then back into the Godhead is a nonsense, that he would cry out to himself from the cross.
Yes, that is why Jesus became a man, He set aside His divinity to do absolutely everything required as a man. He was tempted, He even struggled with things sweating blood over taking on every sin man has ever done upon Himself, becoming sin, something else God doesn't and cannot do as God, but as a man, Jesus could. He took the full punishment for every single sin done by ma ...[text shortened]... ay to God, because it isn't us becoming good enough for God; it is God making us God enough for Him.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou can tell that that doctrine was very poorly thought out, and it really makes a joke of those who swallowed, such a doctrine.
Jesus did not just differentiate himself from the father. He differentiated himself from God. The idea that he could step out and then back into the Godhead is a nonsense, that he would cry out to himself from the cross.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOne Being, three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the Son took on humanity and went through everything He did for our salvation. God and the Father are one and the same, so crying out to God is no different than crying out to the Father. He wasn't crying out to Himself, which is why understanding the Trinity is essential.
Jesus did not just differentiate himself from the father. He differentiated himself from God. The idea that he could step out and then back into the Godhead is a nonsense, that he would cry out to himself from the cross.
Philippians 2:5-7
English Standard Version
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
@kellyjay saidWhat a load of bull. Your doctrine is a confused mess of nonsense and stupidity
One Being, three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the Son took on humanity and went through everything He did for our salvation. God and the Father are one and the same, so crying out to God is no different than crying out to the Father. He wasn't crying out to Himself, which is why understanding the Trinity is essential.
Philippians 2:5-7
English Standard Version ...[text shortened]... be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
@rajk999 saidEven in your pitiful attempt to say who Jesus is saying as much, that God is His Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. The Son is the only begotten of the Father, while Adam was formed from the dust of the earth, and God breathed life into Him. While Jesus was begotten, He was born into this world as the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary.
What a load of bull. Your doctrine is a confused mess of nonsense and stupidity
@kellyjay saidDid you get the impression from the teachings of Christ that people need to understand that Jesus is God? IF so please quote the reference.
Even in your pitiful attempt to say who Jesus is saying as much, that God is His Father, and the Father is greater than the Son. The Son is the only begotten of the Father, while Adam was formed from the dust of the earth, and God breathed life into Him. While Jesus was begotten, He was born into this world as the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary.
-Removed-The notion of Biblical inerrancy is a distraction.
The behavior of others is a distraction.
What others might believe is a distraction.
Your judgment of others is a distraction.
The notion of a moral compass is a notion.
Finely honed analytical and verbal skills -- as much as you should indeed appreciate those talents and skills -- will not help you to Abide in Christ or follow His Way.