Why we believe

@fmf said
Do you believe that all theists have "a relationship" with their "creator God"? Do you also accept that the particular "creator God" [that happens to be] correlates strongly to geography and cultural context?

No but that also doesn’t prove one’s not there or that God doesn’t have one with them even so. Where you were born playing a part in what you believe I’ve posted before, and agree. Not knowing the beginning, middle, and end or being God and it’s his plan leaves us only with guesses. Since we were divided by all of this including language, beliefs etc. then God has a reason and by faith I trust and believe in that. God knows all of the languages and what they include with the world being a small place comparatively from a creator standpoint which I believe you have some favor for just not God?

-Removed-

I told you that you can believe the whole thing properly and it doesn't mean anything
towards your being saved, being a Christian. If you cannot accept that, nothing can
be said to enlighten you, you simply want to be in the dark.

@kellyjay said
What makes us Christian is Jesus Christ, not where we were born.

Statistically, this isn't true though, is it.

@kellyjay said
As I have been saying forever and a day, I don't care what you call yourself, you
either have Jesus Christ in you as Lord and Savior or not. Going to church faithfully
and claiming you are a Christian does not make you a Christian, only Jesus Christ
entering into your life can do that, it is a divine act of God. We have a living HOPE,
not in some doctrine, cultural setti ...[text shortened]... g accepted or rejected
nothing sort of Him can make us right before God, not some wishful thinking.

😴 😴 😴

@mike69 said
I don’t believe the outliers posted above disprove God but a lack of knowing and having a relationship with your creator God. They disprove nothing except the lack of this relationship. All Christians aren’t the same nor can you put all those with your thought process in one boat.

You didn't even take the time to understand what the conversation was about.

@bigdogg said
You didn't even take the time to understand what the conversation was about.

I read all of the post, it could be you on this topic for understanding of as a non believer?

@indonesia-phil said
Statistically, this isn't true though, is it.

Where you fall short is the inability to see ahead and where Christianity is growing the fastest now. We do have internet and television now, what could be next to expand and grow possibly leading to some countries giving free choice without punishment, restrictions, ridicule, and more.

-Removed-

The scriptures tell us who the Lord is and what is required, ignoring it you can miss the truth, but it is Jesus who saves, not our efforts.

@bigdogg said
😴 😴 😴

I think you are missing the only point, it doesn't matter what label we put on
ourselves, countless people claim to be Christian but do not know the Lord, they
are going to hear the words from Christ, "Depart from me I never knew you."
the only important point is Jesus Christ, not a survey of claims.

@kellyjay said
I think you are missing the only point, it doesn't matter what label we put on
ourselves, countless people claim to be Christian but do not know the Lord, they
are going to hear the words from Christ, "Depart from me I never knew you."
the only important point is Jesus Christ, not a survey of claims.

Where would you at this point in time as a human never knowing or seeing heaven decide those lines for Christ to decide this for each of us as individuals. Then add in the all knowing thing, something very hard for us to understand considering we don’t have it. We live where we have rules overall for the masses due to population, structure and sometimes personal need nowhere near completely the individual for us to understand. We judge by our earthly opinions, understanding, environment upbringing and on so it’s hard to put definite words in Christ mouth and his judgement.

@kellyjay said
I think you are missing the only point, it doesn't matter what label we put on
ourselves, countless people claim to be Christian but do not know the Lord, they
are going to hear the words from Christ, "Depart from me I never knew you."
the only important point is Jesus Christ, not a survey of claims.

Ahh, so when I see you on here and it looks like you're trying to discuss other points, that is just a smoke screen.

You only care about pushing tiresome evangelical cliches on people who have already heard and rejected them hundreds of times over.

You should pause and reflect on the sheer futility of what you are doing.

Thanks for the honesty, at least.

@indonesia-phil said
Statistically, this isn't true though, is it.

Jesus Christ’s salvation is only due to Christ not where or when one is born.