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@divegeester saidAt least Jehovah’s Witnesses get to stretch their legs.
I read it and see “Jehovah’s Witnesses”.
I sense that sonship knows what he’s into.
@divegeester saidAt least Jehovah’s Witnesses get to stretch their legs.
I read it and see “Jehovah’s Witnesses”.
I sense that sonship knows what he’s into.
Again, are all these ex-members just making stuff up?
When the laity cannot feel comfortable in publicly expressing their disagreement with a teaching of their church, it is because the leadership are somehow applying pressure to silence those who dissent, those who may be seeking a revised version of what they had been told was the truth. This is religious cultism.
" When the laity cannot feel comfortable ..."
@sonship saidOh, I guess that means you don’t have to answer my question then.
@divegeester
" When the laity cannot feel comfortable ..."
The local churches do not have a clergy / laity system.
We do not practice a "laity" of members.
@sonship saidYour post is just another pile of jazz-handed waffle sonship. This is not about Nee’s teaching itself, not about Lee’s preaching and it’s not about the New Testament,. Nor is my question anything to do with “LIBEL”, what is or isn’t illegal and it’s not even about “my arguing if the Local churches are wrong about the trinity”.
@divegeester
No, dissent from the pure teaching of the New Testament actually helps to bring out more the truth. Now there are LEGAL remedies for spreading false slanderous lies. THAT may be brought to court as libel and character assassination through false reports. But to disagree with Witness Lee or Watchman Nee's preaching from the Bible? Not in this country is there an ...[text shortened]... for the opportunity to speak about the biblical three-onenesss of God with clarity and faithfulness.
The local churches believe that God is the only one Triune God—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit—co-existing equally from eternity to eternity (1 Tim. 2:5a, Matt. 28:19).
In order to be saved, one must have a living faith in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Every genuinely saved one has what the Bible calls the “common faith” (Titus 1:4), which includes what we must believe in order to be saved: we must believe that the Bible is the complete divine revelation wholly inspired by God; that there is a unique Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit; that Jesus Christ is the Son of God incarnated to be a man; that Christ died on the cross for our sins, shedding His blood for our redemption; that on the third day He was bodily raised from the dead; that He has been exalted to the right hand of God and made the Lord of all; and that He is coming again for His own and to set up His kingdom on earth.
that there is a unique Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit;
In order to be saved, one must have a living contact with Jesus Christ. Therefore, in bringing unbelievers to salvation, we emphasize prayer and calling on the name of the Lord. According to Romans 10:9 and 10, if a man is to be saved, he must believe in his heart and confess with his mouth.
@sonship saidYou seem fixated on the one testimonial I provided from Brent Barber while ignoring the many others from ex-members will negative and cultish tales to tell.
You mean EVERYBODY doesn't have the same sour, bad, cynical feelings as Brent Barber?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25IS-mv6edc
The church in Cardiff in the UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9CT1sZxUC0
Your post is just another pile of jazz-handed waffle sonship. This is not about Nee’s teaching itself, not about Lee’s preaching and it’s not about the New Testament,. Nor is my question anything to do with “LIBEL”, what is or isn’t illegal and it’s not even about “my arguing if the Local churches are wrong about the trinity”.
"Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who confesses the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:23)