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@aginsons1993 saidBut first we need to know the truth.
We need to know about this movement
@aginsons1993 saidBut first we need to know the truth.
We need to know about this movement
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI suppose one that believes in reincarnation would except that, but I contrast "karma" with the biblical concept of the "reap and sow" principle.
Ah, but we are all subject to karma, believers and unbelievers alike. In this context belief during one incarnation is less important as one may go on to be a believer in the next.
@fmf saidI work for the NSA, your drone has been shot down.
I have a drone hovering over Aginsons1993's house watching his movements. It may give us something that helps answer your question.
@aginsons1993 saidWelcome to the forum brand new person to RHP.
We need to know about this movement
Sonship however has spoken of man being the same 'species' as God (his word) and comes on the back of Witness Lee stretching the trinity to encompass a 4 in 1 deity, which included man.
That is problematic.
But there is this; for the first time in eternity the DNA of man, in the person of Jesus Christ, is sitting on the throne in heaven.
I think it extra biblical to suggest that man, the creation of God, is made a member of the Godhead. I find that nowhere intimated in the Bible.
God will always be the giver, and man the receiver. Forever. Albeit there is the mystical union between man and God.
J. S.'s Misrepresentation of Brother Lee's Teaching
Stated succinctly, J. S. charges Brother Lee with espousing and propagating “the greatest and worst blasphemous heresy,” “the devilish heresy that man will become god (or God).” As quoted in the foregoing section, Brother Lee clearly and emphatically teaches that “the Godhead is unique” and that “He is the only One who should be worshipped.” Recall Brother Lee's balanced word that, on the one hand, the New Testament reveals that “the Godhead is unique and that only God, who alone has the Godhead, should be worshipped” and that, on the other hand, the New Testament reveals that we, the believers in Christ, have God's life and nature and that “we are becoming God in life and in nature but will never have the Godhead” (emphasis added). In speaking of deification—the process through which the believers are constituted with the Triune God to be made God in life and in nature—Brother Lee says that man becomes “God in life and in nature but not, of course, in the Godhead” (emphasis added). Of course, the Godhead is unique. Of course, we will never have the Godhead. Of course, God alone is worthy of worship. Of course, the believers will never become an object of worship. Of course, the believers will never be made God in the sense of having the Godhead. “Never have the Godhead” —this crucial phrase deserves the attention of every honest reader of Brother Lee's materials.
@secondson saidNo, I think they are pretty much the same. It all comes down to consequences.
I suppose one that believes in reincarnation would except that, but I contrast "karma" with the biblical concept of the "reap and sow" principle.
They are not the same thing. But that's a whole other argument.
No, I think they are pretty much the same. It all comes down to consequences.
@sonship saidOr perhaps more importantly, why did God feel He had anything to prove to the devil?
It wrestles mightly with the question ' Why do BAD things happen to GOOD people? '
Or perhaps more importantly, why did God feel He had anything to prove to the devil?