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    23 Apr '14 07:371 edit
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?
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    23 Apr '14 07:44
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    It's an exercise of negative human free will which coexists with God's Sovereignty in time; God respects human volition.
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    23 Apr '14 07:46
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    "Why do human beings refuse eternal life?"
    Who says there is an eternal life? I've never heard of anyone enjoyed eternal life.

    "Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?"
    Why do people choose to believe in a supernatural being? Because they want to? Or because they have been told so to avoid the eternal punishment?
    I rather believe in Santa, because he gives me presents every christmas. Your god doesn't do that.
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    23 Apr '14 07:54
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    Are you addressing people who do not believe in the God figure that you happen to believe in? Or are you addressing people with the same beliefs as you?
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    23 Apr '14 08:062 edits
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability not want to have sex with Aphrodite?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life in Valhalla?

    Why do human beings choose evil over Allah on purpose?

    It is a mystery. 🙄
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    23 Apr '14 08:10
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    Very good questions. Have you considered the possibility though, that you are asking the wrong questions?
    Have you ever met anyone that:
    1. Does not want to have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?
    2. Refused eternal life?
    3. Chose evil over God on purpose?
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    23 Apr '14 12:03
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    Prove that god exists.

    Prove that that god is good and not evil.

    Prove that human beings can have eternal life.

    Then prove that that eternal life is a pleasant and desirable place to be
    for an infinite amount of time.

    Then prove that we do have a choice of having an eternal life spent with
    a good god that is desirable.

    And THEN if you can do all of the above, you can start asking why people
    might turn it down IF after all the above people still do.

    Until then.

    There is no rational reason to suppose that god/s exist, or that an afterlife
    of any kind exists [eternal or otherwise].
    And thus there is no reason to suppose that the options you claim people are
    rejecting actually exist.
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    23 Apr '14 14:59
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Why do human beings who are so limited in ability [b]Not want to even have fellowship with God as a son or daughter?

    Why do human beings refuse eternal life?

    Why do human beings choose evil over God on purpose?[/b]
    Replace "human beings" in these questions with "atheists".

    The answers become quite clear.
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    23 Apr '14 15:011 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Prove that god exists.

    Prove that that god is good and not evil.

    Prove that human beings can have eternal life.

    Then prove that that eternal life is a pleasant and desirable place to be
    for an infinite amount of time.

    Then prove that we do have a choice of having an eternal life spent with
    a good god that is desirable.

    And THEN if you ...[text shortened]... there is no reason to suppose that the options you claim people are
    rejecting actually exist.
    Translation: Atheists miss out on the Kingdom of God because their big brains get in the way of their hearts.

    And to believe is to be vulnerable.
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    23 Apr '14 15:03
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Translation: Atheists miss out on the Kingdom of God because their big brains get in the way of their hearts.

    And to believe is to be vulnerable.
    God is a nice concept.
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    23 Apr '14 15:05
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Translation: Atheists miss out on the Kingdom of God because their big brains get in the way of their hearts.

    And to believe is to be vulnerable.
    You need a new translator.

    And to believe is to be vulnerable.


    Assuming just for a moment that this is true...

    Why is "being vulnerable" in and of itself a good thing?
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    23 Apr '14 15:05
    Originally posted by redbarons
    God is a nice concept.
    Which god?

    The bible god is a repugnant and muddled concept.
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    23 Apr '14 15:101 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    You need a new translator.

    And to believe is to be vulnerable.


    Assuming just for a moment that this is true...

    Why is "being vulnerable" in and of itself a good thing?
    Because it is what makes us human, that we can be open and vulnerable to one another. It's honesty.

    But my point was that atheists see it as a thing to be feared.
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    23 Apr '14 15:12
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Which god?

    The bible god is a repugnant and muddled concept.
    Only to those who have not taken the time (or refuse to be bothered) to get to know Him. Yes, it's an ignorant concept by definition.
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    23 Apr '14 15:16
    Gf, I hope maybe you can see my overall point here.

    As many bizarro (to me) ideas you spew out, I can spew out just as many bizarro (to you) ideas back.

    Having a different opinion is no reason to despise someone.
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