Originally posted by @rajk999If it is completely dead faith, I do not know., I have always heard that if you truly believe something then you have to make efforts in that direction.
We agree then. Faith and Works is the real thing.
Faith alone is dead.
Works is where we probably disagree.
Seeing that there are so many billions of people, we know that not everyone can manage both faith and works. The qustion is who do you think will fare better in the end? Is it someone who comes to Christ with dead faith or someone with works alone and no knowledge of God or Christ?
But to be faithless, but have works, suffices for absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by @rajk999<The qustion is who do you think will fare better in the end? Is it someone who comes to Christ with dead faith or someone with works alone and no knowledge of God or Christ?>
We agree then. Faith and Works is the real thing.
Faith alone is dead.
Works is where we probably disagree.
Seeing that there are so many billions of people, we know that not everyone can manage both faith and works. The qustion is who do you think will fare better in the end? Is it someone who comes to Christ with dead faith or someone with works alone and no knowledge of God or Christ?
Obviously the former as good works are not a requirement for salvation - only faith in Christ is.
Originally posted by @romans1009are you an authority on anything?
<The qustion is who do you think will fare better in the end? Is it someone who comes to Christ with dead faith or someone with works alone and no knowledge of God or Christ?>
Obviously the former as good works are not a requirement for salvation - only faith in Christ is.
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelI’d say I’m learned about some subjects but an authority? No, I wouldn’t say that.
are you an authority on anything?
Originally posted by @fmfGulp. Sorry sir, fully booked up this month...
Thanks, but it's my reactor core that's leaking.
Originally posted by @philokaliaCan you show where from the teachings of Jesus Christ you find this doctrine?
If it is completely dead faith, I do not know., I have always heard that if you truly believe something then you have to make efforts in that direction.
But to be faithless, but have works, suffices for absolutely nothing.
But to be faithless, but have works, suffices for absolutely nothing
Thank you
Originally posted by @rajk999Good works are a manifestation of someone who is saved, not a requirement to be saved. Do you understand the difference? The Bible is clear that salvation is by faith in Christ alone.
Can you show where from the teachings of Jesus Christ you find this doctrine?
But to be faithless, but have works, suffices for absolutely nothing
Thank you
And the good works that one does *after* one is saved is due to God’s Holy Spirit indwelling and leading them.
Tell me how many good works do you have to do to be saved? If someone comes to a saving belief and faith in Christ a short time before they die, before they had the opportunity to do any good works, are they saved?
Are you aware of all the times Jesus Christ said salvation was by faith in Him alone?
Are you aware of all the times Paul, who wrote a majority of the New Testament, said that?
Why does John 3:16 and Romans 10:9 not mention good works as being necessary for salvation?
Originally posted by @romans1009References.. got any ?
Good works are a manifestation of someone who is saved, not a requirement to be saved. Do you understand the difference? The Bible is clear that salvation is by faith in Christ alone.
And the good works that one does *after* one is saved is due to God’s Holy Spirit indwelling and leading them.
Tell me how many good works do you have to do to be sav ...[text shortened]... ?
Why does John 3:16 and Romans 10:9 not mention good works as being necessary for salvation?
Originally posted by @rajk999Yeah, we’ve gone over this before. I’ll be happy to post the references again, but first address the questions in the last four paragraphs as I’ve asked those numerous times and have yet to receive a response.
References.. got any ?
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