20 Jun 18
1) Believe in God
2) Believe in Jesus
3) Be saved through grace
4) Receive Holy Spirit
5) Do good works (follow Jesus), with the help of the Holy Spirit
This is likely the correct way to do good works?
Note: atheists would claim they can do #5 without the need of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
It has been suggested that doing genuine good works is not possible without the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Comments?
20 Jun 18
Originally posted by @chaney3I agree with those.
1) Believe in God
2) Believe in Jesus
3) Be saved through grace
4) Receive Holy Spirit
5) Do good works (follow Jesus), with the help of the Holy Spirit
This is likely the correct way to do good works?
Note: atheists would claim they can do #5 without the need of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
It has been suggested that doing genuine good works is not possible without the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Comments?
But with someone not believing in God are they really doing good works? What’s the reason behind what they’re doing?
Originally posted by @rbhillIf you have to ask this and genuinely can't deduce the reasons yourself from observing people [without your religious beliefs] going about their lives, then I wonder if your religious beliefs have deprived you of a pretty significant chunk of your common humanity.
...with someone not believing in God are they really doing good works? What’s the reason behind what they’re doing?
Originally posted by @chaney3The correct way to do good works is to just do it and shut up about it. Resist all the attempts of false Christians on this site who harass you to tell them what you do. Just tell them its none of their business. God rewards all those who do their good works secretly and without informing anyone.
1) Believe in God
2) Believe in Jesus
3) Be saved through grace
4) Receive Holy Spirit
5) Do good works (follow Jesus), with the help of the Holy Spirit
This is likely the correct way to do good works?
Note: atheists would claim they can do #5 without the need of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
It has been suggested that doing genuine good works is not possible without the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Comments?
Originally posted by @fmfClearly he has no compassion in his heart.
If you have to ask this and genuinely can't deduce the reasons yourself from observing people [without your religious beliefs] going about their lives, then I wonder if your religious beliefs have deprived you of a pretty significant chunk of your common humanity.
Originally posted by @chaney3Yes, Jesus came and after He did, He sent the Holy Spirit to us.
1) Believe in God
2) Believe in Jesus
3) Be saved through grace
4) Receive Holy Spirit
5) Do good works (follow Jesus), with the help of the Holy Spirit
This is likely the correct way to do good works?
Note: atheists would claim they can do #5 without the need of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
It has been suggested that doing genuine good works is not possible without the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Comments?
John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
Galatians 5:17
For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
Originally posted by @chaney3I believe?? Its in the Bible. The knowledge of good and evil is in all men from the time of Adam. Where do people get the idea that nobody could do good works or live righteously.
It really seems that you believe one can do good works without a belief in God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit....AND without guidance from the Bible.
Am I right or wrong with that perception?
21 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Galatians 5:17
I believe?? Its in the Bible. The knowledge of good and evil is in all men from the time of Adam. Where do people get the idea that nobody could do good works or live righteously.
For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
21 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999"Is in all men from the time of Adam".
I believe?? Its in the Bible. The knowledge of good and evil is in all men from the time of Adam. Where do people get the idea that nobody could do good works or live righteously.
Given by God.
So, therefore God is involved with the good works of men, and not men alone?
Again, atheists would disagree with you, and this contradicts what you've been saying about Ghost getting into Heaven.
Right?
Originally posted by @chaney3All of mankind is capable of good works.
"Is in all men from the time of Adam".
Given by God.
So, therefore God is involved with the good works of men, and not men alone?
Again, atheists would disagree with you, and this contradicts what you've been saying about Ghost getting into Heaven.
Right?
Who is responsible God will judge
Whether it is done with love or for selfish reasons, God is the judge of that.
I never said anyone goes to heaven.
21 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Okay, I will rephrase.
All of mankind is capable of good works.
Who is responsible God will judge
Whether it is done with love or for selfish reasons, God is the judge of that.
I never said anyone goes to heaven.
In your view, is the 'belief' in God necessary to do good works?
This question has been argued in numerous threads, so I'm curious what you think.