1. PenTesting
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    21 Jun '18 11:56
    Originally posted by @dj2becker
    If good works and good works alone could save people and people were able to do enough of them to save themselves there would have been no need for Jesus to die on the cross. Works alone cannot save you. I don’t expect you to get this though...
    I dont expect you to get this and I answered this question several times.

    Nobody is saved by good works.
    The death of Christ saved everybody.
    The death of Christ was necessary because of the sin of Adam.
    The death of Christ SAVED THE WORLD FROM THE CONDEMNATION OF SIN
    Entry into the Kingdom of God REQUIRES GOOD WORKS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS
    Those who continue to sin will be cast out of the Kingdom of God

    But I know you would not get that.

    You are the profess my faith and then profess my own salvation, type.
    Your doctrine is the road to damnation
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    21 Jun '18 21:23
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    To chaney3:

    Don't listen to the judging hater.

    Go invest in a personal copy of the Bible, OT and NT. (Doesn't have to be KJV, I'd recommend NIV.)

    Find a local church that believes what you believe and try to attend weekly.

    It will give you a new perspective, focusing on love, and the Word, rather than judging and hate. Chances are that you will also find ways to help your community.
    Thanks Suzianne,

    I have a Life Recovery Bible (NLT), which has tremendous and helpful notes on each page. I read it daily.

    I have admitted in the past that I'm not terribly active in the community, nor volunteer work, which goes against the desire of Jesus, but I'm looking into it.....seriously.

    I'm a work in progress...in my faith and in life itself. But doing alright. 🙂
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    21 Jun '18 21:31
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Well good for you. Then in that case you most certainly are a Christian.
    As you know, I've intensely searched for the identity of Jesus, which caused me frustration and doubt, and those emotions came out badly in my previous posts, but somehow I was able to hang on to that 'mustard seed' of faith long enough to accept my Christianity....which never really left.

    I may have felt that Jesus abandoned me somehow in my past, but I've slowly learned that it was ME causing the gap in our 'relationship'.

    Thanks.
  4. PenTesting
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    21 Jun '18 21:46
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    To chaney3:

    Don't listen to the judging hater.

    Go invest in a personal copy of the Bible, OT and NT. (Doesn't have to be KJV, I'd recommend NIV.)

    Find a local church that believes what you believe and try to attend weekly.

    It will give you a new perspective, focusing on love, and the Word, rather than judging and hate. Chances are that you will also find ways to help your community.
    There are some better examples of haters around here:.. church Christians
    They:
    - condemn all nonChristians to eternal torment
    - are the only ones capable of doing good deeds
    - they are the only ones that show love to others
    - they arrogantly believe that they can continue on with sin and still get eternal life
  5. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    21 Jun '18 21:48
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Lately?

    He's been like this as long as I've been here.
    Yes he has. Good on him, he follows forum exchanges accurately . Surely a very good work around here.
  6. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    21 Jun '18 22:09
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Those who continue to sin will be cast out of the Kingdom of God
    Yet, you admit you are a sinner that continues to sin. Do you not understand why your message is constantly being pointed out as contradictory and confusing?
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    21 Jun '18 22:33
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Yet, you admit you are a sinner that continues to sin. Do you not understand why your message is constantly being pointed out as contradictory and confusing?
    No. I do not claim that i have eternal life. You people do that.
    So you sin, you have eternal life already. That is contradictory.

    I confess that I sin. I await the judgment of Christ... like Paul said he does as well
    You guys are lucky. Im not
  8. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    22 Jun '18 00:06
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    No. I do not claim that i have eternal life. You people do that.
    So you sin, you have eternal life already. That is contradictory.

    I confess that I sin. I await the judgment of Christ... like Paul said he does as well
    You guys are lucky. Im not
    By your own words, you are condemned to hell. I don't think you are. You do.
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    22 Jun '18 02:43
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    By your own words, you are condemned to hell. I don't think you are. You do.
    So you not going to give Jesus the chance to judge me?
    Thats typical.
  10. SubscriberSuzianne
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    22 Jun '18 02:58
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    There are some better examples of haters around here:.. church Christians
    They:
    - condemn all nonChristians to eternal torment
    - are the only ones capable of doing good deeds
    - they are the only ones that show love to others
    - they arrogantly believe that they can continue on with sin and still get eternal life
    All you spew here is hate.

    That taints your message.
  11. PenTesting
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    22 Jun '18 03:13
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    All you spew here is hate.

    That taints your message.
    The message of Christ is for those who have ears to hear.
  12. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    22 Jun '18 03:29
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Yet, you admit you are a sinner that continues to sin. Do you not understand why your message is constantly being pointed out as contradictory and confusing?
    Confusing ?
    Rajks Christian posts are easily the least confusing on this forum .
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    22 Jun '18 03:33
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    All you spew here is hate.

    That taints your message.
    No he doesn't . What threads are you reading ?

    Quite honestly I dont know how you would come to this conclusion.
  14. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    22 Jun '18 04:15
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Confusing ?
    Rajks Christian posts are easily the least confusing on this forum .
    Love the sarcasm! Thanks
  15. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    22 Jun '18 04:22
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    So you not going to give Jesus the chance to judge me?
    Thats typical.
    Apparently you can't read, either. I said YOUR words condemn you, not mine.

    You say sheep aren't sinners.
    You admit you're a sinner.
    Therefore by your teachings, you're not a sheep.
    Thus by your teachings you are a goat.

    Perhaps Karoly--who understands your teachings so well and believes they aren't contradictory--can explain how a sinner is a goat--unless the sinner is Rajk99 in which case the sinner is a sheep.
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