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@chaney3 said
All Christians believe in doing good works.
Do they? Maybe they are like Romans1009 who believed that Christians should not make any personal effort to initiate good works and that, if they do end up doing any, it is a supernatural effect of the Holy Spirit working through them, and that, if no good works are done, then that is OK because it is the will of the Holy Spirit that there be none. Not a single Christian dissented from this view aside from Rajak999.

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@fmf said
Do they? Maybe they are like Romans1009 who believed that Christians should not make any personal effort to initiate good works and that, if they do end up doing any, it is a supernatural effect of the Holy Spirit working through them, and that, if no good works are done, then that is OK because it is the will of the Holy Spirit that there be none. Not a single Christian dissented from this view aside from Rajak999.
ALL Christians believe in good works.

Rajk and ThinkofOne have stated that a belief in God is not required.
A belief in Jesus is not required.

Stop defending a poor interpretation.

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@chaney3 said
Curiously, none by dive.
Exactly. So where are all the threads that back your claim that "all Christians believe that good works are vital"?

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@fmf said
Exactly. So where are all the threads that back your claim that "all Christians believe that good works are vital"?
Are you saying dive is a poor example of a Christian?

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Please read the thread, I already said this.

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Tell this to Jesus.

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@chaney3 said
ALL Christians believe in good works.
Where are the threads, aside from Rajk999's, where Christians 'teach' that followers of Jesus must obey his commandments and do good works in order to demonstrate their faith in him and/or his teaching? KellyJay spam bombs threads with scatter-pattern furballs when asked about it, SecondSon skulks off muttering county-bumpkinly about the questioner's delusion or lack of intelligence, and sonship starts talking about people's "toilet hearts" and "unclean dog" natures or does things like comparing them to "drunken lepers" or to people "eating faces" if he's pressed about it.

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@chaney3 said
Are you saying dive is a poor example of a Christian?
divegeester speaks eloquently about his own Christian faith and his Christian life. This is something you seem unable to do.

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@fmf said
Where are the threads, aside from Rajk999's, where Christians 'teach' that followers of Jesus must obey his commandments and do good works in order to demonstrate their faith in him and/or his teaching? KellyJay spam bombs threads with scatter-pattern furballs when asked about it, SecondSon skulks off muttering county-bumpkinly about the questioner's delusion or lack of intellige ...[text shortened]... things like comparing them to "drunken lepers" or to people "eating faces" if he's pressed about it.
ALL Christians believe in good works.

The debate is confused between how good works affects salvation. I have said this 3 times already. You are daft.

Grace, mercy, etc. are foreign to you and Rajk.

You are confused FMF, as is Rajk.

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@chaney3 said
The only difference between them and Rajk is that they feel that knowing Jesus 'first' is essential, and that by knowing Jesus they will desire to do good works.
So a "desire to do good works" played out as actual doing of works is a Christian obligation?

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