14 Jul '13 09:27>2 edits
This it seems is constantly coming up here. Apparently the eastern religions have had it worked out long ago.
So instead of rationality vs faith we have 'educated guesses'.
Instead of science and religion we try to incorporate both into some type of more holistic phlisophy .
We use male and female energies or left and right brain to engage more of our brain. This has also been called 'active' and 'recepetive'.
Classic hoistic ontolgy refers to the 'Lover' and the 'Beloved' and the importance of understanding both roles when describing the states of mind one should cultivate.
In magic circles initiates such as Crowley would refer to the "Hadit"(male) and 'Nuit'(female) , as differing aspects of the one being for understanding the basics of applied magic.
And on it goes.
So far the mainstream has only recognized quantum theory and work in psychology by Jung and some others as a way forward in human understanding, that we need a more holistic appraisal of the world we find ourselves in.
Quantum has revealed that (1)scientists who include themselves as a variable in their experiments are likely to get much more accurate answers . Also that (2)most of what we consider to be 'solid' is actually empty. Further, (3)that the 'solid world' behaves as particles when we view it directly, and as waves when we turn away.
To me these are the most important discoveries by quantum which incidentally have been revealed by mystics thousands of years ago... quantum has just proved it.
Meanwhile Jung has used the terms "collective unconscious" and "archetypes" to describe in a more holistic way why people are mentally unsound.
The idea of "archetypes",(common human psychological states, ideas and realizations, which are supposed to be universal across all human cultures), originate from the 'collective unconscious', which elsewhere has been termed the "noosesphere'. The nooseshpere is said to contain ALL human memories, thoughts, dreams,etc. which one can draw upon to give meaning to their own situations.
On this forum spirituality is rarely viewed from such a holistic view (ie. that science and religion should stand side by side in determining the best possible model for how the universe works), instead we have cheap point scoring and dogged defense of one's views, because of the perceived flaws in the others views rather than trying to extracate the good from the bad from doctrines such as Christianity, where it is all too obvious from threads like stellpalfie's " the wrong priority" that all is not well in just swallowing the tripe we are told accept.
So instead of rationality vs faith we have 'educated guesses'.
Instead of science and religion we try to incorporate both into some type of more holistic phlisophy .
We use male and female energies or left and right brain to engage more of our brain. This has also been called 'active' and 'recepetive'.
Classic hoistic ontolgy refers to the 'Lover' and the 'Beloved' and the importance of understanding both roles when describing the states of mind one should cultivate.
In magic circles initiates such as Crowley would refer to the "Hadit"(male) and 'Nuit'(female) , as differing aspects of the one being for understanding the basics of applied magic.
And on it goes.
So far the mainstream has only recognized quantum theory and work in psychology by Jung and some others as a way forward in human understanding, that we need a more holistic appraisal of the world we find ourselves in.
Quantum has revealed that (1)scientists who include themselves as a variable in their experiments are likely to get much more accurate answers . Also that (2)most of what we consider to be 'solid' is actually empty. Further, (3)that the 'solid world' behaves as particles when we view it directly, and as waves when we turn away.
To me these are the most important discoveries by quantum which incidentally have been revealed by mystics thousands of years ago... quantum has just proved it.
Meanwhile Jung has used the terms "collective unconscious" and "archetypes" to describe in a more holistic way why people are mentally unsound.
The idea of "archetypes",(common human psychological states, ideas and realizations, which are supposed to be universal across all human cultures), originate from the 'collective unconscious', which elsewhere has been termed the "noosesphere'. The nooseshpere is said to contain ALL human memories, thoughts, dreams,etc. which one can draw upon to give meaning to their own situations.
On this forum spirituality is rarely viewed from such a holistic view (ie. that science and religion should stand side by side in determining the best possible model for how the universe works), instead we have cheap point scoring and dogged defense of one's views, because of the perceived flaws in the others views rather than trying to extracate the good from the bad from doctrines such as Christianity, where it is all too obvious from threads like stellpalfie's " the wrong priority" that all is not well in just swallowing the tripe we are told accept.