Young Earthers, explain this:

Originally posted by humy
“...So where did it come from? Again your source "energy" is part of the current
makeup of the universe and it came from? ...”

Energy came from the singularity that in turn contained mass. And before you ask where that singularity (along with that mass) 'came' from, the most 'obvious' interpretation of the equations that imply time began at the singularity ...[text shortened]... ant:
In what way would the beginning of time not be the beginning of the universe?

You again take one state of the current universe and turn it into to something
else, where did it come from?
Kelly

Originally posted by humy
“...So where did it come from? Again your source "energy" is part of the current
makeup of the universe and it came from? ...”

Energy came from the singularity that in turn contained mass. And before you ask where that singularity (along with that mass) 'came' from, the most 'obvious' interpretation of the equations that imply time began at the singularity ant:
In what way would the beginning of time not be the beginning of the universe?

I asked you where this universe came from, you keep de-evolving the universe
into something else which does not address its beginning it only touches the
process that is supposed to be going on now, you only talk about some other
stage as if that is the beginning. Now if you give another stage before the
singlarity you've only continued your quest to not have an answer, something
you can compare to creation.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I asked you where this universe came from, you keep de-evolving the universe
into something else which does not address its beginning it only touches the
process that is supposed to be going on now, you only talk about some other
stage as if that is the beginning. Now if you give another stage before the
singlarity you've only continued your quest to not have an answer, something
you can compare to creation.
Kelly

You have been asked questions and haven't given a straight answer or any answer at all. What gives you the right then to demand someone else answer your question?

Originally posted by Bebop5
You have been asked questions and haven't given a straight answer or any answer at all. What gives you the right then to demand someone else answer your question?

This was mine from the beginning it has not been answered.
If there is something you want from me ask again I'll answer I must have
missed it, or tell me where I can find the one you want answered I'll look for it.
I went through this thread I have not seen anything from you I did not address.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
This was mine from the beginning it has not been answered.
If there is something you want from me ask again I'll answer I must have
missed it, or tell me where I can find the one you want answered I'll look for it.
I went through this thread I have not seen anything from you I did not address.
Kelly

OK then. One simple question at a time.

When you look at our sun, (between 91.4 and 94.5 million miles away) how long does it take for the light from it to reach us?

Originally posted by Bebop5
OK then. One simple question at a time.

When you look at our sun, (between 91.4 and 94.5 million miles away) how long does it take for the light from it to reach us?

This is a new question, which I will answer I thought you were complaining
about something I had left unanswered which I could not find. I'll do a
one question at a time with you, so answer the one I have asked first.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
This is a new question, which I will answer I thought you were complaining
about something I had left unanswered which I could not find. I'll do a
one question at a time with you, so answer the one I have asked first.
Kelly

Which question would you like answered first?

Originally posted by Bebop5
Which question would you like answered first?

Seriously, you've seen me asking where everything came from in the universe
and even complained that I have been demanding and answer for it, so lets
start with that.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Seriously, you've seen me asking where everything came from in the universe
and even complained that I have been demanding and answer for it, so lets
start with that.
Kelly

That's easy, I believe that God created everything. I have never said otherwise.
Now will you answer my questions?

Originally posted by Bebop5
That's easy, I believe that God created everything. I have never said otherwise.
Now will you answer my questions?

I have an off topic question for you, do you have Monical's pizzia near you?
Read your bio.
I used to live in Midwest it was my favorite pizza place, now cannot get it.


Between 7 and 8 minutes if everyone has their distances and rates correct.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I have an off topic question for you, do you have Monical's pizzia near you?
Read your bio.
I used to live in Midwest it was my favorite pizza place, now cannot get it.


Between 7 and 8 minutes if everyone has their distances and rates correct.
Kelly

Never heard of Monical's.

Yes, 7-8 minutes is close enough.

Next closest star (proxima centauri) is how far away?

Originally posted by Bebop5
Never heard of Monical's.

Yes, 7-8 minutes is close enough.

Next closest star (proxima centauri) is how far away?

Around 4.2 years away if everyone has their distances and rates correct.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
You again take one state of the current universe and turn it into to something
else, where did it come from?
Kelly

“...You again take one state of the current universe and turn it into to something
else, ...”

Again and again I am finding it impossible to decipher your heavily encrypted grammar. Again, still don't know what you mean.
Which “state” are you referring to of the “current universe” I am “ turn it into to something else” ? and what am I turning it into?

“...where did it come from? ...”

I have answered that.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I asked you where this universe came from, you keep de-evolving the universe
into something else which does not address its beginning it only touches the
process that is supposed to be going on now, you only talk about some other
stage as if that is the beginning. Now if you give another stage before the
singlarity you've only continued your quest to not have an answer, something
you can compare to creation.
Kelly

...you keep de-evolving the universe
into something else which does not address its beginning it only touches the
process that is supposed to be going on now, you only talk about some other
stage as if that is the beginning ...”

now lets analyse the last bit of that i.e. “...you only talk about some other STAGE as if that is the BEGINNING ...”. (my emphasis)
I said that time may have began at the singularity -if so, then the singularity was at the beginning of time and, since any process can only occur within a period of time by the very definition of the word “process” itself, there could be no process before it thus that first stage would have been causeless and the ONLY thing identifying the “beginning” as the beginning would be not a process but that first stage itself i.e. the singularity.
If that standard model is true, how can the first stage of a process NOT be the beginning?

Even if that standard model is false and time didn't ever begin, that would mean we can only speculate (at least for now) what what came before but that is no excuse to assume a god must have had something to do with it.

Originally posted by humy
“...You again take one state of the current universe and turn it into to something
else, ...”

Again and again I am finding it impossible to decipher your heavily encrypted grammar. Again, still don't know what you mean.
Which “state” are you referring to of the “current universe” I am “ turn it into to something else” ? and what am I turning it into?

“...where did it come from? ...”

I have answered that.

It is a simple question, where did this all come from?
Energy as we see is part of everything around us now, so matter from energy
nothing new. The singularity, where did it come from, if all that is part of this
universe was a condensed state, or the singularity again nothing new here
same stuff in a different form or state. So far unless I misunderstood you,
matter comes from energy, energy was a singularity, and before that was, what?
Where did it come from?
Kelly