Originally posted by robbie carrobieIgnoring the rest of your ironically ego-filled rant, why do you care about helping people overcoming adversity in their lives if you then go and poison them with your lacking dogma? You're like a death-row doctor. 'We must save them so that they can face their executions.' Yeah, right.
We on the other hand are embroiled in humanity trying to help people overcome all manner of adverse circumstances from abject poverty to drug abuse to prostitution and for this we make no apologies.
You don't need an organization to help people. Have you even once attempted to do these 'good works' yourself instead of relying on your organization noticing so that you can chalk up your weekly 'quota'?
And oh, yeah, I'd back off on the 'boasting' if I were you. Just sayin', since you're soooo concerned about other Christians' boasting. Oh wait, that wasn't you. Oh, that's right, you're the one who can't even acknowledge your fellow Christians' 'good works' because they're not backed by a multi-billion dollar organization. And this, despite the fact that you can't even call your fellow Christians 'Christian' because your huge ego keeps getting in the way.
And now, you can't even acknowledge the value of Faith. How far must you stray before you come back like the Prodigal Son?
All total, I'd call your post "a swing and a miss", robbie. Want to try again?
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Doesn't it bother you all that even amongst religious people there is such a huge difference in views regarding how god requires you to have faith?
Why didn't god communicate more clearly what he wants from us?
If people who believe god exists already have such deviating ideas about what He wants, it's hardly surprising that atheists don't understand theists, is it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI like my desserts chocolate style, I still dabble in a little fruity number every now and again.
I do read other books but I like my science creationist style.
Again, I thought you evaluated the evidence with your own mind? That's what you used to tell us any how. Or was that a lie?
Originally posted by Great King RatNo, it's not surprising that atheists do not understand theists.
Doesn't it bother you all that even amongst religious people there is such a huge difference in views regarding how god requires you to have faith?
Why didn't god communicate more clearly what he wants from us?
If people who believe god exists already have such deviating ideas about what He wants, it's hardly surprising that atheists don't understand theists, is it?
But it is surprising that theists often do not understand one another, when we have a resource to follow to ensure understanding: James 1:5-6
" If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." -- James, 1:5-6, KJV
I guess many like their wavering, because it is what they are used to.
This passage, like many others, indicates the importance of faith. But again, I guess many like being of little faith, because it is what they are used to.
This is a fault of man, not of God.
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Originally posted by SuzianneIt is the application of Biblical principles in their lives that helps people, but nooooooo, you have your salvation, your faith, you are saved, Jesus in you, its all about you. Your churches are not for disseminating life giving truths, but for coffee mornings, jumble sales and helping gays get accept themselves, 'for who we are'. Heaven forbid that we should open the scriptures and find out Gods perspective and thus I resent your ludicrous assertions!
Ignoring the rest of your ironically ego-filled rant, why do you care about helping people overcoming adversity in their lives if you then go and poison them with your lacking dogma? You're like a death-row doctor. 'We must save them so that they can face their executions.' Yeah, right.
You don't need an organization to help people. Have you even onc ...[text shortened]... Prodigal Son?
All total, I'd call your post "a swing and a miss", robbie. Want to try again?
a hit and a miss, i dont think so, in fact i would say, home run! Now where's your tambourine?
Originally posted by Proper Knobtry fishing elsewhere pudding boy, no materialistic dogma! i get enough of that on the BBC iplayer
I like my desserts chocolate style, I still dabble in a little fruity number every now and again.
Again, I thought you evaluated the evidence with your own mind? That's what you used to tell us any how. Or was that a lie?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm not fishing, just curious as to the reasons, remember it was you who brought that term up, as to why you don't read certain books and as to why you claimed to be an 'independent free thinker who evaluated the evidence with your own mind' when you quite clearly aren't.
try fishing elsewhere pudding boy, no materialistic dogma! i get enough of that on the BBC iplayer
Originally posted by Proper KnobMy record of independent thinking on this site speaks for itself, i have consistently refused (except for expediency sake) to endorse dogma, stereotype and preconception and various logical fallacies as well.
I'm not fishing, just curious as to the reasons, remember it was you who brought that term up, as to why you don't read certain books and as to why you claimed to be an 'independent free thinker who evaluated the evidence with your own mind' when you quite clearly aren't.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo why won't you read the book?
My record of independent thinking on this site speaks for itself, i have consistently refused (except for expediency sake) to endorse dogma, stereotype and preconception and various logical fallacies as well.
And what does expediency have to do with anything?
Originally posted by Proper Knobbecause i like creationist books, are you going to make me eat broccoli as well? sometimes its required for expediency sake to deal in stereotypes that people understand, like secular liberal for example, but i don't like them myself because they provide a convenient place to hinge prejudices, after all, there may be some redeeming quality even about a secular liberal.
So why won't you read the book?
And what does expediency have to do with anything?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's a book, it contains words. What's the issue?
because i like creationist books, are you going to make me eat broccoli as well? sometimes its required for expediency sake to deal in stereotypes that people understand, like secular liberal for example, but i don't like them myself because they provide a convenient place to hinge prejudices, after all, there may be some redeeming quality even about a secular liberal.
If I can read creationist literature, why can't you read this book?
Maybe you should eat broccoli, being obese and all. It will do you good.