03 Dec 13
Originally posted by vivifyvivify, there are three definitive issues: Age of Accountability (volition functioning); God Consciousness
It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
(varies by pristine and technologically advanced societies); and God's Attribute of Justice (He's fair).
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03 Dec 13
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWell done, for looking like you are answering the question without
vivify, there are three definitive issues: Age of Accountability (volition functioning); God Consciousness
(varies by pristine and technologically advanced societies); and God's Attribute of Justice (He's fair).
actually answering the question...
CAN an 8 year old burn in hell for eternity?
If yes. then your god is evil.
If no, then what age IS old enough to get an eternity of torture?
If you don't know... How can you worship a god when you don't
know whether or not they torture children for eternity?
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03 Dec 13
Originally posted by vivify
It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
vivify, how are you at finishing longer posts ? If I write some things to your question would you finish reading it to the end ?
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by vivifyI would be very interested in getting some supporting references from the Bible which says that children burn in hell for all eternity; in fact anyone for that matter burn in hell for all eternity. This is a misconception which many people have of what eternal punishment means.
It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
I will get the ball rolling here. The Bible says that certain evil beings will be punished in the lake of fire :
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Is says the Devil, Beast and False Prophet are tormented for ever and ever. Many translations render 'for ever and ever' as 'an era' or 'an age'. Most people dont realise how difficult it is to fathom the concept of'eternity and many places in the Bible that speaks of eternity or everlasting or for ever are actually referring to a period or era.
Another passage says:
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
So someone has to show that they actually know whose names are not written in the book of life, whether children are included or not.
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by googlefudgeHis words are usually as clear as mud.
Well done, for looking like you are answering the question without
actually answering the question...
CAN an 8 year old burn in hell for eternity?
If yes. then your god is evil.
If no, then what age IS old enough to get an eternity of torture?
If you don't know... How can you worship a god when you don't
know whether or not they torture children for eternity?
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by sonshipHow long does a post need to be in order to answer this question? Isn't my question simple enough?It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
vivify, how are you at finishing longer posts ? If I write some things to your question would you finish reading it to the end ?
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by Rajk999Oh, boy, this thread again.
I would be very interested in getting some supporting references from the Bible which says that children burn in hell for all eternity; in fact anyone for that matter burn in hell for all eternity. This is a misconception which many people have of what eternal punishment means.
I will get the ball rolling here. The Bible says that certain evil beings will ...[text shortened]... ally know whose names are not written in the book of life, whether children are included or not.
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by vivifyJust a guess here, but the Jewish coming of age markers are 13 for boys and 12 for girls. This is when they have their Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah celebrations. I would guess that before this, they would be considered an 'innocent', and not an adult yet. The Bar Mitzvah ceremony was not in place during Biblical times, but the age of 13 is mentioned in the Talmud.
It's generally accepted that babies or small children are exempt from hell. But what about an eight year old? Can an eight year old burn in hell for eternity, according to God?
I'm going with the Jewish coming of age because the Hebrews are really the only 'chosen' people that God bothered to set down any laws for (in the OT, anyways).
03 Dec 13
Originally posted by SuzianneSeems like a good guess to me.
Just a guess here, but the Jewish coming of age markers are 13 for boys and 12 for girls. This is when they have their Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah celebrations. I would guess that before this, they would be considered an 'innocent', and not an adult yet. The Bar Mitzvah ceremony was not in place during Biblical times, but the age of 13 is mentioned in th ...[text shortened]... really the only 'chosen' people that God bothered to set down any laws for (in the OT, anyways).