Your Purpose in Life

Originally posted by FMF
It's just a gut feeling. Are you going to spend three pages pretending to have forgotten that we discussed this already in detail only a week or two ago, and then another five pages pretending not to know what a gut feeling is?

You said you accept or reject things based on evidence and plausibility of logic. But you accept that there may be a God based on a gut feeling. So what you said doesn't add up.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So you are saying two contradictory statements can both be true? How open minded of you...

But I haven't said anything of the sort. You're making stuff up.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You said you accept or reject things based on evidence and plausibility of logic. But you accept that there may be a God based on a gut feeling. So what you said doesn't add up.

Oh dear, so you are now going to pretend not to know what 'gut feeling' means and pretend that we have not already discussed this in detail?

Originally posted by FMF
Yep. So, despite what I think, I acknowledge that what the Hindus or the Muslims or the Sikhs believe may still be true too. As far as I can make out - as a Christian - you do not agree with this. I suppose this makes me more open minded than you.

Sounds more like someone who doesn't know what to believe, and can't make up their mind. Do you acknowledge that Christianity may still be true?

Originally posted by FMF
Oh dear, so you [b]are now going to pretend not to know what 'gut feeling' means and pretend that we have not already discussed this in detail?[/b]

Based on what you said before it sounded like you accept that there may be a God. Correct me if I am wrong.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Sounds more like someone who doesn't know what to believe, and can't make up their mind.

I am perfectly content with my belief system as it stands. If you have not been able to glean that from our conversation, then perhaps your religionist ideology has taken a toll on your powers of discernment and empathy ~ the toll it has taken on your abilities to engage in discourse is, of course, already plain to see.

If you truly think that I am having some sort of difficulty or dilemma deciding which retail religion to plump for, then you are barking up the wrong tree altogether. Your post above sounds like a rather desperate last ditch attempt to taunt and therefore has you coming across as a bit petty and insecure.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Based on what you said before it sounded like you [b]accept that there may be a God. Correct me if I am wrong.[/b]

I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. Already discussed in detail. Already discussed in detail. Already discussed in detail. There has been no revelation by God as far as I am aware. There has been no revelation by God as far as I am aware. I have seen no convincing evidence. I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. Already discussed in detail.

Originally posted by sonship
But I do not know the Vedas at all. The need to HAVE to know the Vedas has never yet occurred to me. Out of respect, I think one day I'll look into the Vedas.

Why has that respect been absent up until now?

Originally posted by sonship
I will not comment too much on the Vedas which i do not know. But I think you have about a million gods in the Vedas as compared to the ONE God in the Bible.

So? A million gods in the Vedas compared to one god in the Bible. Very different from your religion. Therefore wrong.

Is that how it works?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you acknowledge that Christianity may still be true?

Ah I see you tacked this reasonable question on to the end of your silly cock-the-snook with an edit. In an academic, hypothetical sense, yes, I suppose "Christianity may still be true" but I took a good long hard look at it and finally liberated myself from its ideology ~ something I do not regret at all ~ quite the opposite. So, in terms of my spiritual mind map and my intellect and my life experience, I cannot see how I would find my way back to Christianity. I have no reason to believe it is "true". Is it humanly possible for me to be wrong? Yes, of course.

Originally posted by sonship
[quote] The Bible
The Koran
The Vedas
The Talmud (Torah)
Guru Granth Sahib

Why have you chosen the Bible as evidence of God's revelation, as opposed to the other religious writings in the above list? You were not around when 'any' of the above were written, so on what basis do you build your evidence that the Bible alone carries this revelation? ...[text shortened]... Guru Granh Sahib, i know nothing about yet.
Do his disciples claim that he rose from the dead ?

Will come back to this later today sonship when I have more time. (Lots to get my teeth into).

I would say though that my knowledge of Sikhism is quite weak and barely touched upon it during the course of my studies. (It's actually been on my 'to do' list for quite a while, along with Rastafarianism which again I know next to nothing about).

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Will come back to this later today sonship when I have more time. (Lots to get my teeth into).

I would say though that my knowledge of Sikhism is quite weak and barely touched upon it during the course of my studies. (It's actually been on my 'to do' list for quite a while, along with Rastafarianism which again I know next to nothing about).

Sikhs are quite interesting, their founder Guru Nanak was actually born in what is now present day Pakistan and it was originally a peaceful religion. He went around towns and villages with a Hindhu and a Muslim and tried to preach peace and reconciliation to them. Later on the Sikhs became militarised under Guru Gobind Singh and were essentially a kind of warrior caste due to conflict with Moguls who were Muslim.. I have actually visited the Shahi Quila in Lahore and seen some artefacts from the reign of Ranjit Sing. Eventually many Sikhs fought not only against the British but for them and had the reputation of being the best and most fearless fighters. In the nineteen eighties there was a movement to create a Sikh separatist state, termed Kalistan. Indira Gandhi the then Indian prime minster made the fatal mistake of sending troops into the Golden temple, Sikhisms most Holy temple. (not so holy that they could not keep weapons and munitions there) A very very bad idea. She paid for it with her life when her Sikh bodyguards gunned her down for the outrage. One Canadian airliner carrying many Canadian-Indians was also bombed in apparent retribution, Air India flight 182. 🙁

On a lighter note they are famous for a dance style known as bangra of which I myself am somewhat of an expert. Here is Daler Mehndii a Sikh with Indian superstar Juhi Chawala performing the bangra song, 'Kudiyan Sehar Diyan', literally 'women of the city' which praises them for being fair skinned and difficult to entice.

YouTube

Originally posted by FMF
I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. Already discussed in detail. Already discussed in detail. Already discussed in detail. There has been no revelation by God as far as I am aware. There has been no revelation by God as far as I am aware. I have seen no convincing evidence. I have a gut feeling. I have a gut feeling. Already discussed in detail.

Do you accept that there may be a God? Simple yes or no answer. Saying I have a gut feeling a million times does not answer the question.

Originally posted by FMF
So? A million gods in the Vedas compared to one god in the Bible. Very different from your religion. Therefore wrong.

Is that how it works?

Polytheism is not logically compatible with monotheism. Monotheism makes more sense to me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Polytheism is not logically compatible with monotheism. Monotheism makes more sense to me.

And er... so how does this work? What just so happens to "make more sense" to you also just so happens to be "universal", "perfect" and "real" and "the absolute truth", is that right? Have I understood your endless assertions correctly? 😕