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I wouldn’t say sonship is a fraud, he just been caught up in some teachings which are wrong and he can’t let go of them.
You don't seem, however, to be able to POINT OUT THE ERROR.
Now you do go on about what you DON'T LIKE.
But I do not see you take the Scripture and point out the ERRORS.
I cannot take your revulsion and strong dislike of some biblical revelation as my MISTAKE and my wrongly following someone's false teaching.
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I wouldn’t say sonship is a fraud, he just been caught up in some teachings which are wrong and he can’t let go of them.
I don't see you point out what is wrong.
You say "In Hell they will shriek with agony".
And you do your best to make believers in statements about eternal punishment to feel ashamed of themselves.
Ie. "How can Your Jesus be eating popcorn there, watching the torture of billions of souls kept alive? Don't you SEE how bad this is ???"
You take this strong appeal to emotion as indication of my error.
Yea, I SEE how bad your scenario is (whether accurate or not is another matter). But a strong revulsion emotionally doesn't make the general warning of eternal punishment go away from the pages of Scripture, does it ?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThis is sophistry. Jesus, according to the torturer god ideology, incinerates people who do not believe that "Jesus came to save us from sin and the consequences of sin". Believe it and you are "saved", so the dogma goes. If you don't believe it, Jesus burns you.
Firstly, Jesus came to save us from sin and the consequences of sin, he did not come to save us from himself.