-Removed-I'm not sure what the significance is.
In the Old Testament days, nobody could follow the law, even when they knew it.
In the New Testament days, most Christians should agree that even if they know what Jesus would want them to do, they rarely do it.
It's all a "catch 22". As humans, we fail at obedience.
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@chaney3 saidI must add here that through the years, I had much respect for Suzianne, because she at least made the effort to sacrifice and share her time to make life better for the less fortunate. That's what Jesus wants.
I'm not sure what the significance is.
In the Old Testament days, nobody could follow the law, even when they knew it.
In the New Testament days, most Christians should agree that even if they know what Jesus would want them to do, they rarely do it.
It's all a "catch 22". As humans, we fail at obedience.
-Removed-As Paul pointed out, men and women generally succumb to the desires of the flesh, and basically ignore the spirit. We all know what to do, but don't do it.
So the significance of knowing what's right seems irrelevant.
Dive..... you are a great example of this. You know that Jesus wants you to treat people well, and you don't.
How many excuses will you use?
@chaney3 saidEven the gentiles had this law written on their hearts. Even the unbeliever knows at the core of their being what is right, has a conscience.
As Paul pointed out, men and women generally succumb to the desires of the flesh, and basically ignore the spirit. We all know what to do, but don't do it.
So the significance of knowing what's right seems irrelevant.
Dive..... you are a great example of this. You know that Jesus wants you to treat people well, and you don't.
How many excuses will you use?
On this basis, the significance of knowing what's right is 'not' irrelevant. If we have indeed all been given a moral compass, the irrelevancy is blaming the compass maker for our Earthly woes and the poor choices we make.
And I think the Dive thing is a low (unnecessary) blow. None of us really know what a fellow poster is like in real life, what they do and do not do. (I would quote the plank in our own eye thing, but can't be bothered to look it up).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThe "Dive thing" is NOT an unnecessary blow.
Even the gentiles had this law written on their hearts. Even the unbeliever knows at the core of their being what is right, has a conscience.
On this basis, the significance of knowing what's right is 'not' irrelevant. If we have indeed all been given a moral compass, the irrelevancy is blaming the compass maker for our Earthly woes and the poor choices we make.
...[text shortened]... and do not do. (I would quote the plank in our own eye thing, but can't be bothered to look it up).
If you claim to be a Christian in real life, then you do NOT relinquish that for a chess forum. Your persona must match your beliefs.
I'm quite surprised at your dismissal of this Ghost.
@chaney3 saidI hope we're not going back to the days when your unhealthy fixation with divegeester resulted in you starting 3-4 threads a week with his name in the title.
The "Dive thing" is NOT an unnecessary blow.
If you claim to be a Christian in real life, then you do NOT relinquish that for a chess forum. Your persona must match your beliefs.
I'm quite surprised at your dismissal of this Ghost.
@fmf saidWhat good does it do if dive "knows" the law, then doesn't act on it?
I hope we're not going back to the days when your unhealthy fixation with divegeester resulted in you starting 3-4 threads a week with his name in the title.
He is SO fixated on arguing with KellyJay, that he missed the point.
@fmf saidOne cannot claim to be a Christian, then act like the opposite.
I think the way divegeester is conducting himself in his attempts to discuss their shared beliefs is exhibiting more intellectual honesty than KellyJay is, Presumably, you disagree.
If you can't understand that, we have nothing to discuss.
Note: the lengths you will go to defend dive make this discussion worthless.