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Originally posted by Mat Kelley
What do you make of England's team to play Wales? If the back line can gel its looks interesting to me!
What Hipkiss like?

Lots of new names.. we don;t get a lot of Euro Rugby news down under (without sky tv)

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Now we have seen England demolish Wales will it change predictions or are Wales really that bad.

Lets look again at the draw:

A has: England SA Samoa USA and Tonga (Samoa and Tonga are better than Scotland Wales and Italy this is the only group worth watching I hope an Island Team knocks over one of the big guys they deserve better seeding)

B has Aus Wales Canada Japan and Fiji (Aus get a cake walk here but Wales will have to really shake recent form to beat Fiji or be very embarrassed)

C: New Zealand Scotland Italy Romania Portugal (This is pathetic ..no warm up at all for NZ and the thought of Scotland or Italy in the QFs is ridiculous.. a total farce who wants to see Aus and England in the QFs, a game that could be one of the best.

D: France Ireland Argentina Georgia Namibia. (Tonga Samoa and Argentina deserved a better chance at the QF.. denied by the stupid group C draw.

The draw with my pre tri nations predictions are..

The QFs are going to be ridiculous: Wales and Italy do not deserve to get anywhere near the top 8
W Pool B (Aus) R/Up Pool A (Eng)....QF1 28-15
W Pool C (NZ) R/Up Pool D (Fra)......QF2 36-12
W Pool A (SA) R/Up Pool B (Wal).....QF3 58-3
W Pool D (Ire) R/Up Pool C (Ita)......QF4 24-6

W QF1 (Aus) W QF2 (NZ) SF1 16-24
W QF3 (SA) W QF4 (Ire) SF2 32-16

Final NZ v SA.... go All Blacks !! 16-12 NZ Champions 2007.

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Wooooah
England downed by France ... did they get cocky against the cockerels
Ireland downed by Scotland... left the four leaf clover at home??

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
Wooooah
England downed by France ... did they get cocky against the cockerels
Ireland downed by Scotland... left the four leaf clover at home??
Yeah very interesting form before the world cup starts.

Lets hold a tipping comp for the cup as well.

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
Wooooah
England downed by France ... did they get cocky against the cockerels
Ireland downed by Scotland... left the four leaf clover at home??
how many of the starting 15 on the irish team will get more than 2 starts - o'drioscal and o'connell -- i wasn't really surprised to see ireland lose

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Bump.

Counting down ... 🙂

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
The QFs are going to be ridiculous: Wales and Italy do not deserve to get anywhere near the top 8.
So the teams ranked 8th and 9th "do not deserve to get anywhere near the top 8"?

http://www.irb.com/

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Skybet had the Argies at 7/2 to beat the French tonight.

That's great odds for a two horse race, especially given the caliber of the Argies. I stuck £2 on, and at half time am only regretting it wasn't more. Could all change though.

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Originally posted by Angry Boy
So the teams ranked 8th and 9th "do not deserve to get anywhere near the top 8"?

http://www.irb.com/
Congrats on your pub shout win RHB!!! 7-2 odds too.. good one.

The ratings are funny things. This is the current list (not sure if it's adjusted for last nights French Loss to Argentina or Italy downing Ireland)


1(1)NZL NEW ZEALAND93.38
2(2)AUS AUSTRALIA87.03
3(3)FRA FRANCE86.90
4(4)RSA SOUTH AFRICA85.40
5(5)IRE IRELAND81.12
6(6)ARG ARGENTINA81.05
7(7)ENG ENGLAND78.89 (How do they rate down at 7?)
8(8)WAL WALES76.45
9(9)ITA ITALY75.37
10(10)SAM SAMOA74.97 Watch out for these guys they deserve a spot in the down under contest and would make mid way in the six nations easily!!!
11(11)SCO SCOTLAND74.95
12(12)FJI FIJI70.52
13(13)CAN CANADA70.06
14(14)TGA TONGA67.52 Tonga and other Island teams don;t get the games and funding.. plus all there good players play pro rugby in NZ to feed their families. I hope they get in ahead of Wales or Scotland.
15(15)USA USA67.20
16(16)ROM ROMANIA66.79
17(17)GEO GEORGIA66.38
18(18)JPN JAPAN65.85
19(19)RUS RUSSIA64.37
20(20)URU URUGUAY62.66

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
Congrats on your pub shout win RHB!!! 7-2 odds too.. good one.

The ratings are funny things. This is the current list (not sure if it's adjusted for last nights French Loss to Argentina or Italy downing Ireland)


1(1)NZL NEW ZEALAND93.38
2(2)AUS AUSTRALIA87.03
3(3)FRA FRANCE86.90
4(4)RSA SOUTH AFRICA85.40
5(5)IRE IRELAND81.12
6(6)AR ...[text shortened]... 7)GEO GEORGIA66.38
18(18)JPN JAPAN65.85
19(19)RUS RUSSIA64.37
20(20)URU URUGUAY62.66
what happened to portugal?🙂

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Originally posted by spurs73
what happened to portugal?🙂
And Namibia.

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
1(1)NZL NEW ZEALAND93.38
2(2)AUS AUSTRALIA87.03
3(3)FRA FRANCE86.90
4(4)RSA SOUTH AFRICA85.40
5(5)IRE IRELAND81.12
6(6)ARG ARGENTINA81.05
7(7)ENG ENGLAND78.89 (How do they rate down at 7?)
From what I've seen of them lately, it's about right 8-)

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Originally posted by Tirau Dan
Congrats on your pub shout win RHB!!! 7-2 odds too.. good one.

The ratings are funny things. This is the current list (not sure if it's adjusted for last nights French Loss to Argentina or Italy downing Ireland)


1(1)NZL NEW ZEALAND93.38
2(2)AUS AUSTRALIA87.03
3(3)FRA FRANCE86.90
4(4)RSA SOUTH AFRICA85.40
5(5)IRE IRELAND81.12
6(6)AR ...[text shortened]... 7)GEO GEORGIA66.38
18(18)JPN JAPAN65.85
19(19)RUS RUSSIA64.37
20(20)URU URUGUAY62.66
I think if you actually put the teams that are playing in the Cup into your table it would be a hell of a lot more useful.

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
I think if you actually put the teams that are playing in the Cup into your table it would be a hell of a lot more useful.
LOL! good one!😀

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I almost said "So what does this loss mean for England?" before I realised that we actually did win... technically. Congratulations to the USA btw. They played out of their skins for 80 minutes... what more can you ask?

Is victory against SA on friday now a step too far for the men in white? Will Ashton be forced to make changes?

To be perfectly honest, it was a pitiful performance, and if we don't get our act together by friday, I can see the Boks putting 50+ points on us.

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