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  1. Standard member sasquatch672
    Don't Like It Leave
    09 Jan '09 04:13 / 1 edit
    Sitting here watching this boring-ass BCS title game and wondering how, other than greed, a team that went undefeated is not playing, while two teams that are not undefeated get to play for the national championship. It's not as if Utah didn't play anybody; they dropped Alabama like a bad habit. Alabama was ranked first in the country for five weeks this year. Bad enough that our government doesn't represent our collective will; how we get this travesty foisted upon us instead of a real championship is beyond me. The BCS needs to go in the can and Division I college football should have a true national championship.

    Going to bed with 11:33 left in this joke of a game because the true national champion has already been decided. Here's hoping that the AP finds the stones to do the right thing tomorrow.
  2. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    09 Jan '09 04:18
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    Sitting here watching this boring-ass BCS title game and wondering how, other than greed, a team that went undefeated is not playing, while two teams that are not undefeated get to play for the national championship. It's not as if Utah didn't play anybody; they dropped Alabama like a bad habit. Alabama was ranked first in the country for five weeks t ...[text shortened]... ds to go in the can and Division I college football should have a true national championship.
    If you bothered watching this game, I don't see Utah beating EITHER of these teams. They are both playing like titans. You have two Heisman winning QB's and two very tough defenses going against each other. Both of these teams have beaten better teams than Utah did. Look it up. I am so tired of listening to this undefeated underdog cries. Utah is closer to a champion that Boise State was. They are closer to a champion that BYU was, but they aren't as good as Florida or Oklahoma or Texas period!!
  3. Standard member PocketKings
    Banned from edits
    09 Jan '09 04:20
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    Sitting here watching this boring-ass BCS title game and wondering how, other than greed, a team that went undefeated is not playing, while two teams that are not undefeated get to play for the national championship. It's not as if Utah didn't play anybody; they dropped Alabama like a bad habit. Alabama was ranked first in the country for five weeks t ...[text shortened]... dy been decided. Here's hoping that the AP finds the stones to do the right thing tomorrow.
    They won't change it. So a team like Utah, or Boise State will never have a chance to even be considered for a National Champioship because of who they play (despite dropping Bama!). The mystery of it all that needs to be solved is what would happen if they did play the supposed "best."

    Anyway, I'm going to bed also. I already took off work March 19th and 20th, when the real NCAA tourney starts
  4. Standard member PocketKings
    Banned from edits
    09 Jan '09 04:22
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    If you bothered watching this game, I don't see Utah beating EITHER of these teams. They are both playing like titans. You have two Heisman winning QB's and two very tough defenses going against each other. Both of these teams have beaten better teams than Utah did. Look it up. I am so tired of listening to this undefeated underdog cries. Utah is closer ...[text shortened]... to a champion that BYU was, but they aren't as good as Florida or Oklahoma or Texas period!!
    Eh, they still deserve a chance though, opinion and computer projections of who should be in this game is not good enough. There needs to be a playoff, even if just a four team one.
  5. 09 Jan '09 04:55
    Yes, the BCS is a joke. The national champion should be decided on the field, not in the opinion(s) of those who think they know better.

    Utah deserves a shot this year, and since Texas beat Oklahoma I think Texas should have been there. Oh well, the BCS has been stupid since its inception.
  6. 09 Jan '09 05:01
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    Sitting here watching this boring-ass BCS title game and wondering how, other than greed, a team that went undefeated is not playing, while two teams that are not undefeated get to play for the national championship. It's not as if Utah didn't play anybody; they dropped Alabama like a bad habit. Alabama was ranked first in the country for five weeks t ...[text shortened]... dy been decided. Here's hoping that the AP finds the stones to do the right thing tomorrow.
    Sitting here watching the game, I couldn't help wonder if USC could whip up on both these teams as well as Utah.

    Congrats to the #2 Florida Gators!!
  7. 09 Jan '09 05:09
    BCS is a complete joke. Bowls are exhibition games, they are terrible way of trying to determine a national champion.
  8. 09 Jan '09 05:53
    Originally posted by Eladar
    BCS is a complete joke. Bowls are exhibition games, they are terrible way of trying to determine a national champion.
    I thought they did a pretty good job of giving the national title to Utah myself.
  9. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    09 Jan '09 06:00
    Originally posted by whodey
    I thought they did a pretty good job of giving the national title to Utah myself.
    You are turning out to be a bigger joke than the Big 10.
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    09 Jan '09 16:48
    The final AP poll is out: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/poll?poll=AP

    Florida, Utah, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, etc.

    Seems reasonable.
  11. 09 Jan '09 20:01
    Originally posted by Badwater
    Yes, the BCS is a joke. The national champion should be decided on the field, not in the opinion(s) of those who think they know better.

    Utah deserves a shot this year, and since Texas beat Oklahoma I think Texas should have been there. Oh well, the BCS has been stupid since its inception.
    Just because you think different team deserve a shot does not make it so. A playoff model would ruin the entire season (see college basketball) I like the fact that in football every game could cost a team their whole season. Even if you had a plus one system you could easily argue that Florida should play USC, Utah or Texas. No one is ever happy. The playoff advocates want a huge playoff.
    I am not willing to toss out all the great games that would have been irrelevant. The SEC championship, the Big 12 championship, the whole round robin with Texas, Oklahoma and Texas Tech, Ohio State - Penn State would have been wholy irrelevant. In addition Florida, Oklahoma and others could have lost one more game and still made a top eight. You would make more games meaningless than the number of meaningful games you add. Then you might a team that was clearly infererior to other teams get hot for three games and be crowned a champion. It just isn't worth it to me.
  12. 09 Jan '09 21:01
    Originally posted by quackquack
    Just because you think different team deserve a shot does not make it so. A playoff model would ruin the entire season (see college basketball) I like the fact that in football every game could cost a team their whole season. Even if you had a plus one system you could easily argue that Florida should play USC, Utah or Texas. No one is ever happy. Th ...[text shortened]... o other teams get hot for three games and be crowned a champion. It just isn't worth it to me.
    I disagree. The champion should be decided on the field, and not in esteemed opinions of experts like yourself. Period.
  13. 09 Jan '09 21:16
    Originally posted by Badwater
    I disagree. The champion should be decided on the field, and not in esteemed opinions of experts like yourself. Period.
    You make it sound liek the games were not played and we just picked a winner. We have a season, we have conference champions and we have bowl games. Games are played. Good teams formed major conferences and they play each other each week. I am not a Big 12 or SEC conference fan but certainly they were the best conference this year. The winners of their conferences played in a bowl game. I am OK with calling the winner of that game the champion.
  14. 09 Jan '09 22:08
    We have a season. So what more could Utah's players have done to win the National Championship?

    Letting teams decide who will play for the national championship by deciding it on the field is the right way to go. It would be an easy enough system to put in place, even using the present BCS system.

    I put this idea in another thread, but I'll post it again:

    The top 8 BCS teams go through a true BCS series. No conference can put more than two teams into the series. If a team gets eliminated due to this, you just work your way down the rankings until the slots are filled.

    This year could have looked like this:

    Dec 20:

    Home vs Visit

    OU vs Boise State

    Alabama vs USC

    Texas vs Penn State

    Florida vs Utah

    (Tech gets the boot because no conference can send more than 2 teams to the Championship Series)

    New Years Day

    Winners of the first two games meet in the Fiesta Bowl
    Winners of the second two games meet in the Rose Bowl

    Loser in first two play in the Orange
    Losers in the second play in the Sugar

    Winners of the Fiesta and Rose meet in the National Championship game Jan 10.

    The idea is to preserve the New Year's Bowl games while giving at least one week's prep between games and playing on Saturdays when possible.
  15. 10 Jan '09 01:27 / 1 edit
    Utah beat what was the #1 team for many weeks - and from the SEC - soundly. The Utah defense was very impressive. I am certain that defense would have given Florida and OK fits as well. Alas, we'll never know because the BCS is a flawed system, as it demonstrates year after year after year. The BCS will fail us again next year, and the year after that. It's time to move past the 19th century and into the 21st century, where sports champions are decided in playoff rounds. NCAA Div I football needs to catch up and stop the excremental charade.