12 Sep 09
Originally posted by CrowleyYes, there were no loosies in sight, but notice also how quick the ball went out to him. The flyhalf of course was Naas Botha (when he had hair). Danie Gerber BTW is still in the top ten of try scorers for SA - 19 tries in just 24 games. Gerber remains one of the greatest ever and big for his time - 6' 1" and 88kg.
Class. Nice video. I love how the wing and fullback run into each other, trying to lay a hand on The Prince.
These days he'd probably be nailed by the open side flanker. It shows how much defensive lines have changed. Notice how you don't see any of the loose 3 in the video?
13 Sep 09
Is it really just me could anyone see a game plan or an area of improvement from the all blacks. They're a mess, drop the ball and chuck the ball around in blind panic half the time. A half back that can't flat pass and wingers that can't find gaps or catch the ball. and it's been getting worse since early 07. Hanry's entire plan seems to be get fit and do everything at 99mph regardless of accuracy... almost worked as I agree the boks did start to run out of puff.
Agree the ref did seem to favour the boks a couple of times at least even in the way he spoke to SA seem condescending.
13 Sep 09
Originally posted by buffalobillDidn't get to see the game, W, but I'm hearing grumbling about the refereeing. Again.
Again the Boks run out of puff but hold out in the end to win 32-29. I must say that the cross kicks need to be better policed by the refs. McCaw was miles offside when he scored at the end and same with the last cross-kick that ended the match.
13 Sep 09
Congrats to The Boks on a great mile stone:
The first time they have had three consecutive test victories over NZ since 1949 well done.
Your only opposition from down under for a while will come from the other side of the ditch where Deans seems to getting little improvements at every outing. Our lot have been going backwards since 2006
13 Sep 09
Originally posted by Tirau DanThat's not the only milestone.
Congrats to The Boks on a great mile stone:
The first time they have had three consecutive test victories over NZ since 1949 well done.
We are also rated number 1 in the world, and are the world champs in union and sevens. I believe we are the first team to do this?
We have the Tri Nations, beat the Lions and are have the reigning Super 14 team in the Bulls.
Rugby fans here can be quite happy.
14 Sep 09
Originally posted by CrowleyHeartily deserved too.
That's not the only milestone.
We are also rated number 1 in the world, and are the world champs in union and sevens. I believe we are the first team to do this?
We have the Tri Nations, beat the Lions and are have the reigning Super 14 team in the Bulls.
Rugby fans here can be quite happy.
I really see no reason why SA will not retain the World Cup so long as they don't slack off. Some may worry that you've peaked too early but I'd say BS as you guys are currently the only team not utilising a rotational bench system which in my mind takes the fire out of guys wanting to retain their shirt.
Now Crowley would be the time to sigh and let the refs off the hook. haha ;p Though I do think that Silly sod on Sat was hopeless it was more of an attitude than application of the rules.
14 Sep 09
Originally posted by Tirau DanHopefully this good form translates into more grassroots development and passion for the game.
Heartily deserved too.
I really see no reason why SA will not retain the World Cup so long as they don't slack off. Some may worry that you've peaked too early but I'd say BS as you guys are currently the only team not utilising a rotational bench system which in my mind takes the fire out of guys wanting to retain their shirt.
Now Crowley would be ...[text shortened]... that Silly sod on Sat was hopeless it was more of an attitude than application of the rules.
We have LOTS of rugby talent hidden away in poor (especially black) communities and when we start tapping into that properly I don't see much competition for us in world rugby. Seriously.
We need a proper club system, and I believe you're also in favour of possibly scrapping the likes of the Super 14?
I don't just want to scrap it outright, but getting something like the Heineken Cup going would be great.
Money is the big problem, but if the boks keep performing like this, money might start to flow more freely into the game.
Dan, I will stop complaining about the refs and judiciary when they have one standard for all countries. At the moment the boks get blown up and cited more harshly than other teams. This is purely just a fact.
I don't understand why it's happening, but I hope we get to the bottom of it, sooner rather than later...
14 Sep 09
Originally posted by CrowleyAus beat you last time so you do have some competition. Most sides are rebuilding and the danger is SA have peaked too early. Henry is harping on that his men beat the boks all but twenty mins lol. He's is still rotating his playing forty and none of them can pass or catch. We are losing rugby fans every day the man continues only youngsters seem to be hanging in there behind him as they've never seen how rugby should be played.
Hopefully this good form translates into more grassroots development and passion for the game.
We have LOTS of rugby talent hidden away in poor (especially black) communities and when we start tapping into that properly I don't see much competition for us in world rugby. Seriously.
We need a proper club system, and I believe you're also in favour of pos ...[text shortened]... tand why it's happening, but I hope we get to the bottom of it, sooner rather than later...
No one will change you mind about the refs and that is your prerogative but in my view the boks are probably playing harder with more fire than anyone at the moment so attract attention. SA have done a good job in getting heads under control in the fire dept so the silly losses have stopped. Just a thought.
14 Sep 09
Originally posted by Tirau DanNo, I mean more like 10-20 years down the line. If we tap into all the talent we have here, we will be unstoppable.
Aus beat you last time so you do have some competition. Most sides are rebuilding and the danger is SA have peaked too early. Henry is harping on that his men beat the boks all but twenty mins lol. He's is still rotating his playing forty and none of them can pass or catch. We are losing rugby fans every day the man continues only youngsters seem to be han ...[text shortened]... getting heads under control in the fire dept so the silly losses have stopped. Just a thought.
So you don't think Fourie getting banned for 4 weeks for a high tackle is harsh? Or John Smit getting penalised for loosing his footing in a scrum?
I can list a hundred of these, but I won't, because everyone on this forum just thinks I'm utterly biased. There is a double standard on the field and off and the rugby public in SA is starting to get sick of it. The IRB better get their asses in gear, or else we'll shove their heads up there.
15 Sep 09
Originally posted by CrowleyYour mind is made up Crowls... Nothing anyone says will appease you
No, I mean more like 10-20 years down the line. If we tap into all the talent we have here, we will be unstoppable.
So you don't think Fourie getting banned for 4 weeks for a high tackle is harsh? Or John Smit getting penalised for loosing his footing in a scrum?
I can list a hundred of these, but I won't, because everyone on this forum just thinks I'm u ...[text shortened]... ick of it. The IRB better get their asses in gear, or else we'll shove their heads up there.
As for total supremacy in 20yrs.. well that sounds like a fanciful thought but good luck. Lol in 20 years all the SA's will be in NZ ;p
A couple of weeks ago I saw a winning try for Hawkes Bay.. the ball was passed along the line out to the winger who side stepped two changed his line and scored a lovely try. It was joy. The first of it's type in a long time I did enjoy it...
15 Sep 09
Originally posted by Tirau DanHaving one's mind made up when one is correct is not a bad thing.
Your mind is made up Crowls... Nothing anyone says will appease you
As for total supremacy in 20yrs.. well that sounds like a fanciful thought but good luck. Lol in 20 years all the SA's will be in NZ ;p
A couple of weeks ago I saw a winning try for Hawkes Bay.. the ball was passed along the line out to the winger who side stepped two changed his line and scored a lovely try. It was joy. The first of it's type in a long time I did enjoy it...
Anyway...
Yup. You do know only about 15-20% of SA youth plays or has access to rugby fields, training and gear, right? Once we start tapping seriously at grassroots we will surely be unstoppable.