23 Nov 07
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Originally posted by EsotericShowing your ignorance there Eso. Rooney played wide left for a lot of last season.
45 Goals in 107 games for Man U.
Ok for a striker, but he is not THAT good.
There is also more to forward play that just scoring goals. Out of those 107 games, he also got 30 assists, and would have been involved in a lot more goals without getting the final pass.
Last season he had a poor enough season (As a 21 year old remember), and he scored 23 in 55 with 16 assists.
This preseason he looked sharper than ever, was quicker and leaner than ever and hungrier than ever. He then got injured in the first half of the first game of the season, and is now again injured. Despite these interruptions, he has still scored 7 in 12, with 5 assists.
He has also played well against top teams, something which Ronaldo still hasn't done.
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23 Nov 07
Originally posted by EsotericJust another 13 goals and he'll be in the all time England Goalscoring Top 10. Not bad for a 22 year old. He has scored 14 goals in 40 games since making his debut as the youngest England International ever at 17 and also youngest goal scorer. So in 5 years, he scored 14 goals. Assuming his international career lasts until he is 32, he should have scored 42 goals (conservatively assuming the same goalscoring rate for his prime years as for his formative years), placing him 4th on the Top England Goalscorers. Assuming that he does better as a 27 year old than as a 17 year old, which, lets be honest, isn't beyond the realms of impossibility, then he can become top English Goalscorer with only 49 goals, 7 more than his current average would give him.
14 goals in 40 games for England.
Against; Macedonia, Lichtenstein, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Croatia, Argentina (freindly), Holland (freindly), Estonia and Russia.
He has 40 caps at the age of 22. He got them in 5 years. Again, assuming his international career ends when he is 32, and assuming current rate of apps, he will have made 120 caps, placing him 2nd in the Top England Appearences, 5 behind Peter Shilton who played until he was about 40.
Now, how is he rated?
His personal awards are...
* Barclays Player of the Month: February 2005, December 2005, March 2006,
* PFA Team of the Year: 2005-06
* Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year: 2005-06
* FIFPro Young Player of the Year: 2005
* FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 2005
* PFA Young Player of the Year: 2005, 2006
* PFA Fans' Player of the Year (Premiership): 2006
* Match of the Day's Goal of the Season: 2004-05, 2006-07
So what does that say? Most of the awards are "Young" awards, reflecting the strengths of his contributions for 1 so young. How is that overrating?
He has the strength, the skills and the heart to be the best footballer in the world over the coming years. Remember he is part of a very mediocre English side.
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23 Nov 07
Originally posted by Red NightAs a Manchester United supported, I'm so happy that event happened.
I think Rooney's enduring legacy will be letting his teammates and country down by getting sent off in the World Cup for brutally attacking a fallen Portugese player.
It turned out to be the making of Ronaldo and helped him focus into being one of the top players in the world.
Nice 1 Rooney, even in adversity you pull out a pair of aces!
24 Nov 07
Originally posted by Rooney Once a BlueIs your middle name "delusional" ?
As a Manchester United supported, I'm so happy that event happened.
It turned out to be the making of Ronaldo and helped him focus into being one of the top players in the world.
Nice 1 Rooney, even in adversity you pull out a pair of aces!
Like the last days of the Roman Empire, the English shopkeepers sit atop their modern coliseums and cheer lustlily for foreign mercenary gladiators on the distant battle field below.