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Originally posted by Pawn QweenProbably... Btw. I`ve posted my previous post in wrong thread - it needed to be posted in "2008 championship" π
It's a tradition, isn't it? π
Originally posted by no1marauderIt's nice that a friend has to tell me that I am being publicly riduculed in a thread. I was under the impression that you could have a draw whenever you agreed on it. It's not like I tried to hide it. I could have messaged the guy and said let's play thirty moves and then agree to a draw. Why in the world should I try to juggle so many games and struggle against a higher rated player at the same time?
Those players should be ashamed of themselves. Such conduct is condemned in the USCF Code of Ethics at 5(c):
Deliberately failing to play at one's best in a game , in any manner inconsistent with the principles of good sportsmanship, honesty, or fair play.
IMO, these two players should be forfeited from the tourney. I suggest you send a "fair play" ticket.
Originally posted by no1marauderI know not if article 5 (c) by USCF is a rule accepted here at RHP too, but even if it is accepted it seems to me that your thesis is false;
Those players should be ashamed of themselves. Such conduct is condemned in the USCF Code of Ethics at 5(c):
Deliberately failing to play at one's best in a game , in any manner inconsistent with the principles of good sportsmanship, honesty, or fair play.
IMO, these two players should be forfeited from the tourney. I suggest you send a "fair play" ticket.
Originally posted by ItsYouThatIAdoreI would not be so 100% sure about group 88 - JanCar also could be real competitor. His rating is low only because he has finished only 10 games.....
Here is a quick run through of some of the more exciting groups and names to watch out for in the 2009 Championship!
Group 2
Siskin, Procyk, Clandarkfire
All rated 1800 ish and up
Group 4
Quirine, Sami Vuori, Blanca
Quirine is former Champ against two strong players, Blanca's rating is low, but he has been known to play at over 2000 rat ...[text shortened]... ome fun games...
Regardless of rating most groupings will be fun to watch, good luck to all!
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsTry the same "strategy" in a USCF OTB tournament and see what happens.
It's nice that a friend has to tell me that I am being publicly riduculed in a thread. I was under the impression that you could have a draw whenever you agreed on it. It's not like I tried to hide it. I could have messaged the guy and said let's play thirty moves and then agree to a draw. Why in the world should I try to juggle so many games ...[text shortened]... me it's good tournament strategy. If it's against the rules HERE, that's another matter.
Originally posted by no1marauderIs this the USCF ?
Try the same "strategy" in a USCF OTB tournament and see what happens.
USCF Rule 20L Manipulating Results. Collusion to fix or throw games, [b] whether before or during a game in order to manipulate prize money, title norms, ratings, or for any other purpose is illegal and may result in severe sanctions, including revocation of USCF membership.[/b]
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsWhat part of this didn't you understand:
Also we didn't fix the games. A draw offer never even came up until after the game had started.
I love how non-subscribers with no games in progress form the strongest, most critical opinions.
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsThe games were fixed as you well know. A draw offer after 6 moves is absurd. You admit you were doing it to manipulate the results of the tournament. Case closed.
Is this the USCF ?
In your opinion, every player that plays for a draw should be ashamed of himself. Where do you get off?
Try PLAYING CHESS instead of being critical.
I understand the original poster that started all this.
He had sour grapes over not being offered a draw.
I don't understand where any of what I and another player ag ...[text shortened]... rnament should be ashamed.
That's not how it works buddy.
Sometimes draws are a good result.
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsIf you did so in a USCF OTB tournament for the reasons you gave here, you'd face severe sanctions. It's up to the Site Admins whether you should be punished here for your ethical misconduct and poor sportsmanship.
So I'm not allowed to offer a draw on move 6 ?
That is not within the rules ?
Yes Or No ???
Originally posted by dweezilI don't see any difference from agreeing to a draw after 6 book moves or agreeing to a draw after White's first move.
[b]Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
In your opinion, every player that plays for a draw should be ashamed of himself. Where do you get off?
Playing for a draw is one thing, but I don't think 6 moves is very much playing.
You are basically saying anyone that tries to draw a higher rated player in any tournament should be ashamed.
Again, trying to draw someone is one thing, but 6 moves is not really trying, is it?[/b]
Originally posted by no1marauderExplain to me why there is an option to offer a draw on move 6 if it is unethical and unsportsmanlike. Why do I even have the option to offer a draw? By your criteria, draws should not be allowed in tournaments.
If you did so in a USCF OTB tournament for the reasons you gave here, you'd face severe sanctions. It's up to the Site Admins whether you should be punished here for your ethical misconduct and poor sportsmanship.