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    04 Jul '18 10:35
    Originally posted by @roma45
    Challenges are based on available players within the 200 rating band it's up to captains to set what they can. Vast majority is 2 or 3 player challenges nowadays.
    I fail to see what that has to do with how points are split.
    The bigger the challenge the bigger the reward that's fair is it not?
    I agree the bigger the challenge the more points should be given
    But this should be based on a challenge system not a games system
    I fail to see how you are unable to see this
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    04 Jul '18 13:27
    Originally posted by @padger
    I agree the bigger the challenge the more points should be given
    But this should be based on a challenge system not a games system
    I fail to see how you are unable to see this
    Seriously
    I have been the one saying it's the result of the clan challenge tgat matters
    While you have been saying closer challenges should be points spread more.

    6-0 or 4-2 both examples are clan losing. The two games the losers won should never count.
    But you have been saying for ages they should now you day they should not
    Make up your mind
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    04 Jul '18 13:38
    Originally posted by @roma45
    Seriously
    I have been the one saying it's the result of the clan challenge tgat matters
    While you have been saying closer challenges should be points spread more.

    6-0 or 4-2 both examples are clan losing. The two games the losers won should never count.
    But you have been saying for ages they should now you day they should not
    Make up your mind
    You do not say that at all you have pushed repeatedly for a games style system
    I am saying it should be based on a challenge style system
    I admit I have been trying to work out a games styles system but you put this right when you said about the way tennis is scored
    Thank You

    By the way if last year had been on challenges won plus 1 point for every game won Chess Troopers would have won
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    04 Jul '18 13:55
    Originally posted by @padger
    You do not say that at all you have pushed repeatedly for a games style system
    I am saying it should be based on a challenge style system
    I admit I have been trying to work out a games styles system but you put this right when you said about the way tennis is scored
    Thank You

    By the way if last year had been on challenges won plus 1 point for every game won Chess Troopers would have won
    If your aunty had a knob she would be your uncle.
    You are obsessed with WHAT IFS.
    The current rules are all that matters nothing else.
    You are the one been harping on for years that a challenge that ends closer should be rewarded. Now you total back track
    Two reasons
    1) you are a total idiot.
    2).You are winding me up

    Best thing for me is to leave you in your own paranoid world.

    Come on Sweden
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    04 Jul '18 14:13
    Originally posted by @roma45
    If your aunty had a knob she would be your uncle.
    You are obsessed with WHAT IFS.
    The current rules are all that matters nothing else.
    You are the one been harping on for years that a challenge that ends closer should be rewarded. Now you total back track
    Two reasons
    1) you are a total idiot.
    2).You are winding me up

    Best thing for me is to leave you in your own paranoid world.

    Come on Sweden
    A the current rules are not fit for purpose
    B I may be a total idiot but you are the one who put me on the right track
    C I am not trying to wind you up ,I am trying to make you see the sense of what I am saying
    D ????
    E that's a typical Scottish point of view ,Trying to wind up an Englishman ,Wrong nationality , Try again
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    11 Jul '18 20:39
    Originally posted by @padger
    Be back after Wimbledon
    Won't do any good with the football it's on ITV and we never score on that channel
    I told you
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    14 Jul '18 16:00
    Originally posted by @padger
    I told you
    I told you
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    18 Jul '18 12:24
    So how about a scoring System which caluclates the Ratio of won to lost games and puts that as a measure?
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    19 Jul '18 06:33
    Originally posted by @ponderable
    So how about a scoring System which caluclates the Ratio of won to lost games and puts that as a measure?
    Why not just make it simple
    3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
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    19 Jul '18 09:10
    Originally posted by @padger
    Why not just make it simple
    3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
    I thought you want a measure which would be not discerning between large and small Clans...maybe I misunderstood.

    In my opinion a winning percentage is simple btw 😉
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    19 Jul '18 13:25
    Originally posted by @ponderable
    I thought you want a measure which would be not discerning between large and small Clans...maybe I misunderstood.

    In my opinion a winning percentage is simple btw 😉
    No I want a system that doesn't give negative points as with the current one
    There isn't a game in the world that gives negative points until you look at our system
    If my way was adopted it would encourage more challenges with more people in that challenge
    In the present system it is an advantage to only take on small challenges and to finish the challenge early
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    19 Jul '18 19:072 edits
    Originally posted by @padger
    Why not just make it simple
    3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
    This is just similar to the gross point system, except that you now give points to clans for losing challenges.

    There has to be a difference between winning and losing.

    The current system, while not perfect, reflects this philosophy.
    The current system also makes a drawn challenge worth fighting for.

    Case in point.
    Our clan recently completed a 9 player challenge where we needed to win the last game left to gain 9 points for a split challenge instead of losing 18 for a lost challenge.
    A difference of 27 points !!

    Guess what we did ??
    We won that game !!
    I have another game in a 4 player challenge that I intend to bring home for my clan.
    To gain 4 points in a split instead of losing 8. A 12 point difference.

    That is called incentive !!!
    Maybe that is too Darwinian for some.
    But it is what it is.

    I am quite sure we have lost our share of challenges by one game.
    But we take our losses as well as our wins like everyone else.
    It's the same for everybody.
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    20 Jul '18 00:26
    Originally posted by @padger
    No I want a system that doesn't give negative points as with the current one
    There isn't a game in the world that gives negative points until you look at our system
    If my way was adopted it would encourage more challenges with more people in that challenge
    In the present system it is an advantage to only take on small challenges and to finish the challenge early
    So, double the amount of won points to the winning clan and do away with the negative points for the losing clan.

    There, all better now??
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    21 Jul '18 07:39
    Originally posted by @shortcircuit
    So, double the amount of won points to the winning clan and do away with the negative points for the losing clan.

    There, all better now??
    No
    Because the end result is still rubbish
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    21 Jul '18 13:06
    Take the football league
    It is made up of matches ( challenges )
    Goals ( games )
    The current system is trying to make the best clan the one that scores the most goals
    It should be the one that wins the most matches
    There is not a league in the world that uses our system
    Why ?
    Because it doesn't make sense
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