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    14 Jun '16 17:08
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    anyone in Metallica who has dumped a clan game with or without an order from goober, which goober has admitted is a common practice
    have you dumped a clan game when the outcome was already determined?
    Maybe dumping clan games when the outcome is determined should not be the topic.

    Better to talk about dumping clan games to help determine the outcome is more relevant.

    Still waiting for McTayto to come clean on his games. 😀
  2. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    14 Jun '16 17:19
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    anyone in Metallica who has dumped a clan game with or without an order from goober, which goober has admitted is a common practice
    have you dumped a clan game when the outcome was already determined?
    Sir,
    You still haven't learned how to speak in a civil manner. No one orders anyone, we are not an army. I ask you this question though. If a clan match has already been determined and not fixed at the start of it, dropping two won games like mctayto did when the match was just getting started. Is it really worth playing out?
    Kindest Regards,
    May you get what you have coming to you in this life,
    -VR
  3. santa cruz, ca.
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    14 Jun '16 17:22
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Sir,
    You still haven't learned how to speak in a civil manner. No one orders anyone, we are not an army. I ask you this question though. If a clan match has already been determined and not fixed at the start of it, dropping two won games like mctayto did when the match was just getting started. Is it really worth playing out?
    Kindest Regards,
    May you get what you have coming to you in this life,
    -VR
    so you are admitting to dumping games?
  4. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    14 Jun '16 17:33
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    so you are admitting to dumping games?
    Sir,
    Do you think at some point you might be able to give straight answers to direct questions. Do some homework, go look at my clan play history, come back and tell me what you find.
    Kindest Regards,
    May you be a half hour in heaven before the devil knows your there,
    -VR
  5. Subscribermy2sons
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    14 Jun '16 19:42
    What's really funny, is that even with Sleazy Riders being feed massive points from their colluding clans every month, they can't stretch their lead over Metallica much more than 300 pts.
  6. santa cruz, ca.
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    14 Jun '16 20:35
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    Sir,
    Do you think at some point you might be able to give straight answers to direct questions. Do some homework, go look at my clan play history, come back and tell me what you find.
    Kindest Regards,
    May you be a half hour in heaven before the devil knows your there,
    -VR
    I don't want to dig around your archives
    just answer this question
    does Metallica dump clan games?
    goober admits it
    why not you?
    and you being in that clan, the logical question arises, do you dump?
  7. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    15 Jun '16 00:10
    Originally posted by my2sons
    What's really funny, is that even with Sleazy Riders being feed massive points from their colluding clans every month, they can't stretch their lead over Metallica much more than 300 pts.
    Yes, it is really a joke. Imagine where they would be without their 3 feeder clans.

    -VR
  8. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    15 Jun '16 00:13
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    I don't want to dig around your archives
    just answer this question
    does Metallica dump clan games?
    goober admits it
    why not you?
    and you being in that clan, the logical question arises, do you dump?
    I do not speak for Metallica, our leader does. I can only speak for myself. Again, go look at my clan history, see if you can find where I have dumped games!! GOOD LUCK!!!
    Kindest Regards,
    May you get all the respect you deserve,
    -VR
  9. Subscribercarystover
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    15 Jun '16 00:36
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    I do not speak for Metallica, our leader does. I can only speak for myself. Again, go look at my clan history, see if you can find where I have dumped games!! GOOD LUCK!!!
    Kindest Regards,
    May you get all the respect you deserve,
    -VR
    Yes. Same here. Look at all my games clan and otherwise. You will not find a single game that I dumped. It's not in my dna. Then go .... yourself.
  10. santa cruz, ca.
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    15 Jun '16 00:411 edit
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    I do not speak for Metallica, our leader does. I can only speak for myself. Again, go look at my clan history, see if you can find where I have dumped games!! GOOD LUCK!!!
    Kindest Regards,
    May you get all the respect you deserve,
    -VR
    I'm going to take your word
    but your leader does speak for Metallica and says they do dump games
    it all comes down to the degree of cheating that is allowed
    dumping games results in lower ratings which allows your leader to get more favorable match ups which has resulted in your clans year after year success-
    the whole system is corrupt and goober has exploited and benefited from it for years
    of course goober will say that the year end dumping is not to sandbag but merely to get an advantage going into the next years challenges
    true, but the advantage also carries the label of a sandbagging clan
    and that is your albatross
  11. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    15 Jun '16 01:111 edit
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    I'm going to take your word
    but your leader does speak for Metallica and says they do dump games
    it all comes down to the degree of cheating that is allowed
    dumping games results in lower ratings which allows your leader to get more favorable match ups which has resulted in your clans year after year success-
    the whole system is corrupt and goober has ...[text shortened]... true, but the advantage also carries the label of a sandbagging clan
    and that is your albatross
    Sir,
    I believe I have mentioned this to you before. It is one thing to resign games when the clan challenge has been won. It is quite another for 3 teams to be in collusion with one Clan "Easy Riders", feeding them points on a silver platter. for the sole purpose that they can finish 1rst.
    That sir is CHEATING!!! Do you see the difference? All other clan members not involved in the collusion see them as "CHEATERS"!!!! Certainly not winners, or having a great clan leader.
    Kindest Regards,
    With all the respect you deserve,
    -VR
  12. santa cruz, ca.
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    15 Jun '16 01:13
    Originally posted by carystover
    Yes. Same here. Look at all my games clan and otherwise. You will not find a single game that I dumped. It's not in my dna. Then go .... yourself.
    but if your leader tells you to dump
    does your dna also get dumped
    I'm simply repeating what your leader has admitted
    I must have really hit a sore spot
    don't worry little carry
    I'll also take your word
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    15 Jun '16 01:14
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    I'm going to take your word
    but your leader does speak for Metallica and says they do dump games
    it all comes down to the degree of cheating that is allowed
    dumping games results in lower ratings which allows your leader to get more favorable match ups which has resulted in your clans year after year success-
    the whole system is corrupt and goober has ...[text shortened]... true, but the advantage also carries the label of a sandbagging clan
    and that is your albatross
    More nonsense !!

    Once again, our clan has the highest clan average rating.
    And your drivel about average rating being irrelevant.
    The average clan rating is a measure of our individual ratings.

    So our player ratings are higher than
    ratings in a clan like Easy Riders.

    If you think our ratings are too low,
    then why don't you tell the entire forum what you think our ratings should be.

    In fact, why don't you list the members of Metallica with their current ratings and tell us what each of our ratings should be !!

    You, Carrobie and McTayto have been dancing around this for years and have never put your cards on the table !!!

    Yes !! I'm calling you out here !!!

    And I'll tell you what !!
    I'll let Carrobie do the honors with my rating.
    He has in the past ranted that he is a better player than me.
    He has constantly sent Metallica challenges while withe the Hen Masters pitting himself against me saying that he would whip my a$$.

    While at the same time calling me a sandbagger.
    Yet his rating is 1767. Mine is 1829.

    If I am a sandbagger, then what is he ??

    We respectfully await your response complete with analysis of our clan members.

    Though I am not holding my breath on this. 😴
  14. santa cruz, ca.
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    15 Jun '16 01:22
    Originally posted by mghrn55
    More nonsense !!

    Once again, our clan has the highest clan average rating.
    And your drivel about average rating being irrelevant.
    The average clan rating is a measure of our individual ratings.

    So our player ratings are higher than
    ratings in a clan like Easy Riders.

    If you think our ratings are too low,
    then why don't you tell the entire for ...[text shortened]... e complete with analysis of our clan members.

    Though I am not holding my breath on this. 😴
    I don't know what you are
    I don't really care
    as I said
    at what point does dumping or sandbagging become cheating
    some players would agree that any dumping of games is wrong
    when a challenge is issued
    every game should be played out
  15. Subscriberradioactive69
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    15 Jun '16 02:13
    Originally posted by lemondrop
    I don't know what you are
    I don't really care
    as I said
    at what point does dumping or sandbagging become cheating
    some players would agree that any dumping of games is wrong
    when a challenge is issued
    every game should be played out
    What.....like those 2 clan games you played against carrobie? What do you call that..........throwing your own clans games to your master?

    Dumping a few dead clan games is a million times different to carrobie and his cronies cheating. It has destroyed the enjoyment that a lot of people (barring you few ingrates) had playing this competitive competition. There is no reason now to join a clan as the total system has become corrupted by you and your friends.

    The fact that management has not done a thing about it shows how inept, powerless and quite frankly stupid they truly are. Can't they see the damage to the site that turning a blind eye to this is doing. There is no longer any interest in this site to me and I'm sure quite a few others

    Vote with your feet about the way management has treated this matter and do not renew your subscription as I will be doing when it is due, and quite a few others have already done. Maybe a mass stampede of non subscribers will rouse management from its inept slumber.
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