Appeals to greed

In the states there is much discussion about the notion of greed on
Wall Street, and bailing out Main Street due to the greed of Wall
Street. Personally, I think there is nothing but greed here, those that
want something from either BO, or JM for nothing are doing so out of
greed as well.

The notion that anyone has to pay more so others who pay nothing
can get something is completely wrong. Either the playing field is level
or it isn’t, if it isn’t one group is being punished and another lavished
upon without regard for the ones being punished bottom line. This
then sets us up so that we allow politicians to get away with sticking us
all with taxes across the board. As soon as one group starts to
demonized watch out, they will attack them and you too, they just will
not be as up front about coming after you, but they will.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
In the states there is much discussion about the notion of greed on
Wall Street, and bailing out Main Street due to the greed of Wall
Street. Personally, I think there is nothing but greed here, those that
want something from either BO, or JM for nothing are doing so out of
greed as well.

The notion that anyone has to pay more so others who pay nothi ...[text shortened]... em and you too, they just will
not be as up front about coming after you, but they will.
Kelly

"The notion that anyone has to pay more so others who pay nothing can get something is completely wrong."

Do you think Jesus would agree with this statement?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]"The notion that anyone has to pay more so others who pay nothing can get something is completely wrong."

Do you think Jesus would agree with this statement?[/b]

I think Jesus would want everyone to be treated the same way, and
in the US that isn't done. People do not share the pain to reap the
benefits and that has created in this country a group of people who
believe they have a right to other people's money, and we have
leaders who use that greed to promote themselves to stay in power.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I think Jesus would want everyone to be treated the same way, and
in the US that isn't done. People do not share the pain to reap the
benefits and that has created in this country a group of people who
believe they have a right to other people's money, and we have
leaders who use that greed to promote themselves to stay in power.
Kelly

How would you fix this problem?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I think Jesus would want everyone to be treated the same way, and
in the US that isn't done. People do not share the pain to reap the
benefits and that has created in this country a group of people who
believe they have a right to other people's money, and we have
leaders who use that greed to promote themselves to stay in power.
Kelly

Jesus wouldn't want the unfortunate to be given a helping hand?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Jesus wouldn't want the unfortunate to be given a helping hand?

Of course not. That's his job, kind of like how government social programs should be replaced by private charity 🙄.

Originally posted by kirksey957
How would you fix this problem?

Either a flat tax or a consumption tax and get rid of the income tax
that way if some politician wants to raise taxes, he has to look
at all the tax payers in the face and say that is what he wants to
do to everyone. That would stop the free for all in spending too.
Kelly

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Jesus wouldn't want the unfortunate to be given a helping hand?

You should halp the unfortunate, that does not stop if you are paying
taxes or not.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Either a flat tax or a consumption tax and get rid of the income tax

I highly agree with the latter two parts of this sentence. In general, I think the real social function of the government is to convince people to have individual positive trade balances, by doing nothing to discourage production and a lot to encourage consumption. I would advocate extreme taxation of any consumption above a certain standard of living, no income tax, and the abolishment of the limited liability corporation. The inevitable black market and careful, local investment would be real capitalism at work.

To the extent the the sort of ways of treating one's neighbours espoused by Christianity are sensible, and to the extent that the economy affects how we treat our neighbours, I think something like the above is optimal for minimising the d-bag contingent's ranks.

EDIT Obviously there would be some serious revenue decreases, but I think certain government social programs are beneficial, so the obvious solution in a place like the US is to eliminate the military except for the Coast Guard and Border Patrol.

EDIT And eliminate the socialisation of nonproductive interests.

EDIT Basically I wish the Libertarians were not such members of the d-bag contingent on a few issues, and that they weren't running an effing ex-CIA person for president, and I might have someone to vote for tomorrow.

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Isn't 🙄 for sarcasm?

Originally posted by ChronicLeaky
Isn't 🙄 for sarcasm?

I use it to express disbelief; I find 😵 to be more sarcastic.

Edit: sadistic too.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I use it to express disbelief; I find 😵 to be more sarcastic.

Edit: sadistic too.

Let's start a band called "Overloaded Emoticon" or "Semantic Smiley and the Double Meanings".

Originally posted by ChronicLeaky
Let's start a band called "Overloaded Emoticon" or "Semantic Smiley and the Double Meanings".

'Bloated Emoticon' -- although I like plain 'Bloat'.