176 Countries require Voter ID. USA is not one of them.

@mike69 said
You’re saying 53 percent of people don’t have passports, only 13 percent less than a state issued I’d or drivers license which is simple to get and used for many things in life. The small percentages between these two wouldn’t be that close. Common sense tells you these numbers are bs. I can understand the passport number, not all can afford or like to travel and it cost much more.

I know that you libs really get caught up in data and numbers and rambling about percentages and such as that.
Can you not speak like you’re sitting at a Starbucks table with average Joe and discuss why the United States should not worry that people right now are determining ways to get into our voting system, to have people elected that China wants to get elected.
One of our lines of defense would be to make sure we know who are voting. That they are citizens of the country. You will not answer this question because no one ever has.
If eight ladies are having a bridge club meeting voting on the number of decks to buy, i might walk in from the street and say that I want to vote.. they do not know who I am.
One of our most questionable members answered, in his evasive dodging way, that it would depend up on what the ladies would say. What a wimp. Will not answer the question. But to follow his logic, if the state has someone show up like that to vote, the state has a right to say that no you cannot vote here. However, we will let you vote if you will get a photo ID.
So here I have written a perfect one-para treatise, without mentioning any numbers,using common sense and answering the question myself.

@AverageJoe1 said
I know that you libs really get caught up in data and numbers and rambling about percentages and such as that.
Can you not speak like you’re sitting at a Starbucks table with average Joe and discuss why the United States should not worry that people right now are determining ways to get into our voting system, to have people elected that China wants to get elected.
...[text shortened]... -para treatise, without mentioning any numbers,using common sense and answering the question myself.

Wrong person.

@Suzianne said
The MAGA fool mentions common sense.

You cannot make this up.

The fact you think you have any is remarkable.

@shavixmir said
Well, don’t agree with the numbers.
But tell us which numbers you have then?

Of course I disagree, saying a passport is only 13% less than all other forms of I’d combined. A drivers license is very common as is an I’d card for those that don’t drive. You even need one of these to even buy a can of spray paint and other basic items. Post your source.

@shavixmir said
I agree.

It seems a hell of a lot of people don’t have official ID’s.
So, I stand by my opinion that, yes, you can obligate the use of ID’s in voting, but you have to give people 5 years to be ready for the change.

And how are you going to do the postal votes? That has to be arranged as well.

You don’t even live here.

@mike69 said
How many

"I'm going to release the kraken" proving voter fraud remember that? That was in November of 2020.

Still no Kraken. Sidney Powell has instead plead guilty herself to election interference, serving 6 years probation.

The analogy between rigged elections and the mythical Kraken should not go unnoticed. Neither of them are real.

@Fzek47 said
@AverageJoe1
World's greatest country? Hmmm. Switzerland is ranked the best overall country in the world. Netherlands is number 1 for quality of life, Finland maybe contesting that rank. USA? Not even close.

Look up race mixtures.

@mike69 said
Look up race mixtures.

Said like a true racist.

@mike69 said
Of course I disagree, saying a passport is only 13% less than all other forms of I’d combined. A drivers license is very common as is an I’d card for those that don’t drive. You even need one of these to even buy a can of spray paint and other basic items. Post your source.

Driver's licenses, even REAL ID compliant one, are insufficient voter ID under the SAVE Act because they do not show proof of citizenship.

@mike69 said
You don’t even live here.

And your point is?

Europe is well aware how stupid a lot of Americans are.

@mike69 said
Of course I disagree, saying a passport is only 13% less than all other forms of I’d combined. A drivers license is very common as is an I’d card for those that don’t drive. You even need one of these to even buy a can of spray paint and other basic items. Post your source.

Why are you so fond of apostrophes?

@mike69 said
You don’t even live here.

And Shav is still 20x smarter than you. Idiot.

@shavixmir said
I agree.

It seems a hell of a lot of people don’t have official ID’s.
So, I stand by my opinion that, yes, you can obligate the use of ID’s in voting, but you have to give people 5 years to be ready for the change.

And how are you going to do the postal votes? That has to be arranged as well.

Yeah, need to arrange some things....if your lib friends would get out of the way. They WANT illegals here, ,,,,,AND< they want them to be able to vote if they can find a way. People like Wgrass want to make it easy for them to vote by not requiring that they prove who they are, like Nlands does. Please help us out on the forum,, SHav. Why lay back. Tell these liberals that even you wanat voter ID in netherlands. You are a man of the world....tell him 176 countries require voter ID.

@AverageJoe1 said
Yeah, need to arrange some things....if your lib friends would get out of the way. They WANT illegals here, ,,,,,AND< they want them to be able to vote if they can find a way. People like Wgrass want to make it easy for them to vote by not requiring that they prove who they are, like Nlands does. Please help us out on the forum,, SHav. Why lay back. Tell these liber ...[text shortened]... at voter ID in netherlands. You are a man of the world....tell him 176 countries require voter ID.

Every State in the Union requires Voter ID. https://mapresearch.org/democracy-map/voter-identification-requirements-for-in-person-voting/

You are misinformed.

@AverageJoe1 said
Should we discuss this. There were a lot of vague color people on my last flight, and I saw black people driving cars, meaning they all had photo IDs. Meaning voter ID, with which to Matt up with voter rolls.
176 countries of all different distinctions have this one thing in common.
None of you come across with a simple explanation of why you do not want that as well, for the world‘s greatest country.

"There is an important distinction between the United States and many of the countries listed above: most of those nations issue free, universal national identification to their citizens as a matter of course. France, Germany, Italy, Mexico, India, and Brazil all provide government ID at no cost. The ID card is treated as basic civic infrastructure, something the state provides so that citizens can participate in public life.

The United States does not have a national ID system, and the SAVE Act does not include a provision to create one or to subsidize the cost of obtaining the documents it would require."

When Mexico requires voter ID, it hands every citizen a free card. When India requires voter ID, it accepts 12 alternatives and offers a free digital download. The SAVE Act would require documentary proof of citizenship without a comparable mechanism to ensure every eligible citizen can readily obtain it.

https://kimmonson.com/news/save-act-176-countries-require-voter-id/

IF you want to require a card to exercise your right to vote, the government should be obligated to provide that card free of charge.