@sh76 saidSomething has gone wrong with the modern capitalist system:
Bingo!
I'm not sure I like use of the word "fault" here, but that's the hole in the the raise the minimum wage arguments.
If you're a primary breadwinner with a family at age 35 and are flipping burgers, I don't want to use the term "fault" as we don't know the situation, but clearly, something has gone wrong.
Flipping burgers is supposed to be for college kids or high ...[text shortened]... pay for the mortgage, the car and the 2.7 kids. It can't. If it did, a McD burger would cost $29.99.
"Over the past four decades, there has been a broad trend of rising income inequality across countries. Income inequality has risen in most advanced economies and major emerging economies, which together account for about two-thirds of the world’s population and 85 percent of global GDP (Figure 1). The increase has been particularly large in the United States, among advanced economies, and in China, India, and Russia, among major emerging economies."
"Wealth inequality within countries is typically much higher than income inequality. It has followed a rising trend across countries since around 1980, similar to income inequality. Higher wealth inequality feeds higher future income inequality through capital income and inheritance.
The increase in inequality has been especially marked at the top end of the income distribution, with the income share of the top 10 percent (and even more so that of the top 1 percent) rising sharply in many countries. This was so particularly up to the global financial crisis of 2008-09. Those in low- and middle-income groups have suffered a loss of income share, with those in the bottom 50 percent typically experiencing larger losses of income share. These trends in inequality have been associated with an erosion of the middle class and a decline in intergenerational mobility, especially in advanced economies experiencing larger increases in inequality and a greater polarization in income distribution."
"Shifting economic paradigms are altering distributional dynamics. Transformative technological change, led by digital technologies, has been reshaping markets, business models, and the nature of work in ways that can increase inequality within economies. While the specifics differ across countries, this has been happening broadly through three channels: more unequal distribution of labor income with rising wage inequality as technology shifts labor demand from routine low- to middle-level skills to new, higher-level skills; shift of income from labor to capital with increasing automation and a decoupling of wages from firm profitability; and more unequal distribution of capital income with rising market power and economic rents enjoyed by dominant firms in increasingly concentrated and winner-takes-all markets. These dynamics are more evident in advanced economies but could increasingly impact developing economies as the new technologies favoring capital and higher-level skills make deeper inroads there."
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/rising-inequality-a-major-issue-of-our-time/#:~:text=It%20shows%2C%20for%20the%20period%20since%201980%2C%20a,globally.%20Shifting%20economic%20paradigms%20are%20altering%20distributional%20dynamics.
A corresponding reduction in the US birth rate is a rational response of potential parents experiencing increased economic hardships. https://nchstats.com/us-birth-rate-over-century/#google_vignette
@sh76 saidLMAO! Surely you're not dense enough to believe such nonsense.
The USA is running out of young people and the population is dropping and getting older for the same reason it's happening all over Europe and also in places like Korea and Japan (it's actually worst in South Korea).
We have a malevolent idea eating through our culture that having children is bad and that conserving your assets to you can spend it on frivolous entertainment is somehow morally equivalent or superior to raising a family.
If you are, carefully read my prior post and go to the links given.
@Suzianne saidA great friendship w stanton as a friend. we will neve know all the goings-on behind the scenes in all the towns of the USA.
Did you even read this page?
That was my good friend, Rep. Greg Stanton (D-AZ). When he was mayor of Phoenix, we worked together to solve some of the biggest problems facing the homeless community here, lack of housing options, lack of shelters, a police force that was arresting homeless people every night, and lack of police protection for these citizens. Many of the p ...[text shortened]... go, the wife of Sen. Ruben Gallego. Greg and Kate are good people serving Phoenix and Arizona well.
Hey, speaking of which , an alleged terror plot has been thwarted in Michigan today, let us stand by to see who the perpetrators were. I think it was mania Rightists!! Hate for ICE going to work everyday., I figure. I'll let you know, as uou stay entrenched with epstein studies.
@sh76 saidIt is actually about learning how to work. That's it.
Bingo!
I'm not sure I like use of the word "fault" here, but that's the hole in the the raise the minimum wage arguments.
If you're a primary breadwinner with a family at age 35 and are flipping burgers, I don't want to use the term "fault" as we don't know the situation, but clearly, something has gone wrong.
Flipping burgers is supposed to be for college kids or high ...[text shortened]... pay for the mortgage, the car and the 2.7 kids. It can't. If it did, a McD burger would cost $29.99.
One thing for sure.....if a guy with kids is working minimum wage......everybody......there is indeed fault. It is his fault. Sue, shoujld the government raise him and his family????.
@Suzianne saidYou omit the dems' demand for health care for non-citizens. That is a sticking point. It would be for me as a senator, people in my state need that money, and i would not give any of it to non-citizens. Would you?
Unreasonable demands?
Demands that Congress continue to fund subsidies for the ACA are unreasonable?
What bridge do you guys live under?
And you are PROUD to cut these people off who depend on those subsidies.
THAT is what is unreasonable.
You want to start up the government again?
Fund the subsidies. Simple as.
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@AverageJoe1 saidWhy should persons legally in the country and applying for permanent status not be eligible for health care? Mind you:
You omit the dems' demand for health care for non-citizens. That is a sticking point. It would be for me as a senator, people in my state need that money, and i would not give any of it to non-citizens. Would you?
"The law strips Medicare eligibility from certain groups of legal immigrants, even if they’ve worked and paid Medicare taxes for decades. This affects people with Temporary Protected Status, refugees, and asylum seekers who haven’t yet obtained green cards."
https://govfacts.org/explainer/how-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-targets-medicare-and-medicaid/
So people who paid for the benefit are arbitrarily stripped of it because people like AJ don't like them. I call BS.
Why do right wing nuts want to discourage legal immigration? See JD Vance's inane speech yesterday where he supported a large reduction in legal immigration even though his in-laws immigrated here in the 1980s.
@no1marauder saidFirst, you surprise me that an official should base his govt decisions on his personal family history. We need to drive the Shia Law people out as I speak, and yet you are saying that if his inlaws were Shia, that he should pressure the legislature to allow Shia Law. That is EXACTLY what you suggest here. Sick. You might want to drop that stupid line. Stupid.
Why should persons legally in the country and applying for permanent status not be eligible for health care?
Why do right wing nuts want to discourage legal immigration? See JD Vance's inane speech yesterday where he supported a large reduction in legal immigration even though his in-laws immigrated here in the 1980s.
We cannot afford the non-citizens health care. There is an option....buy health insurance for foreigners. Might be a good engerprise to get into. Big money.
We are first beholden to our citizens. America First, but you would never subscribe to that reasoning. Oh, you would? Tell us then, do you promote America First??
Secondly, if other foreigners, like people living in Chad, heard about the No1Marauder Healthcare for Non-citizens, they would come here in droves. For the wrong reasons, of course. You are in love with asylum seekers, but they would come for free health care. That was the 2nd reason.
ooohhhh, you are saying.
Many reasons, of course, here is another. Such arragnements are contracts. A long-term commitment between a couintry and its citizens (permanent residents). It is impossible for s person in the process of citizenship to be a part of a contract which iincludes only citizens as parties thereto.
If you respond foolishly, or condescending, or all that other stuff you do, links, etc, i am not interested. Or if you talk about moral or charitable. If you knew me you would see charitable big time, and moral as nothing to do with it....unless you want to just do health care for 6 or 7 billion people
@AverageJoe1 saidYour ignorant bigotry is uninteresting.
First, you surprise me that an official should base his govt decisions on his personal family history. We need to drive the Shia Law people out as I speak, and yet you are saying that if his inlaws were Shia, that he should pressure the legislature to allow Shia Law. That is EXACTLY what you suggest here. Sick. You might want to drop that stupid line. Stupid.
We ...[text shortened]... d moral as nothing to do with it....unless you want to just do health care for 6 or 7 billion people
As I just showed you, these are people who actually have paid for the benefits in taxes. You are supporting theft and fraud by denying benefits they paid for.
I realize you don't understand this, but we want immigration. Every economic study shows the US greatly benefits from it.
I get it; you don't want those not white enough folks from Chad or other countries like it to come here for racist reasons (you'll call it "culture" but you're not fooling anyone). But if they qualify under present immigration laws, want to work and raise their families here, why such simple minded opposition? The US needs young people, workers and families; xenophobia is mindless idiocy at this point.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidAy, there's the rub, Earl, to tax or not to tax....You have to have an army, a welfare state and so on, can't let people starve, so you need to tax, particularly when government coffers stand empty. And yet....if you tax, you slow down the economy. Our (UK) government, for example, recently increased Employers National Insurance (a tax on employing people) which was a disaster; employers employed less people = more people needing benefits. It's a vicious circle, a bit of a pickle, you might say, which the UK government is currently facing, with the autumn budget pending. You need investment to create jobs, but there's no (government) money to invest, so what do you do, particularly when, as the OP rightfully implies, even people with jobs need foodbanks to keep the family in Chicken Nuggets?
shocking.
would you then think that the feds should stop taxing these low wage earners?
I mean, it's one thing to not pay them enough, but quite another to steal what is theirs, ya know, buddy?
(I don't have the answer, by the way, the question is rhetorical)
@AverageJoe1 saidKeep showing your stupity.
You omit the dems' demand for health care for non-citizens. That is a sticking point. It would be for me as a senator, people in my state need that money, and i would not give any of it to non-citizens. Would you?
@no1marauder saidBut you cannot ignore that it is impossible to have them as part of the contract, n'est-ce pas? But I have an answer for them, if they want to keep living in a country that is not their country 🤔
Your ignorant bigotry is uninteresting.
As I just showed you, these are people who actually have paid for the benefits in taxes. You are supporting theft and fraud by denying benefits they paid for.
I realize you don't understand this, but we want immigration. Every economic study shows the US greatly benefits from it.
I get it; you don't want those not white en ...[text shortened]... ition? The US needs young people, workers and families; xenophobia is mindless idiocy at this point.
They can buy health insurance. I just said that.
For the record, dems are today putting the indigent on a starvation course. If we had MarauderCare, there would be a bunch of foreigners (you refer to them as a race, I notice) needing to be fed too. Naaaa, America first.
Your thingy that they Voluntarily Pay taxes, I guess for the privilege to work in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? That is benefit enough. You want to equalize these people with our citizens. You are kidding ........right...? At least you, right now, do not want free housing like Shav does. But, sigh, you will.
Did you just say it is my fault that people come here, want free stuff, and if they don't get it, they steal and defraud? I bet you think they have a right to do that if we don't suppppppooorrt them. It is Not in the constitution.
We are all bored with the many posts where we ALL AGREE that we need immigtants to come here legally. Stop it, man. Next you will be all about Epstein.
Yes, Trump and I agree we need immigrants. My forebears prob were at Ellis Island, but I and JD Vance would not let that fact affect our decisions. Uou apply above that JD SHOULD let his in laws indluence his decisions. His inlaws. Geeez
Yuor last para is just air, but I dind it curious you seem to put more weight on race than you do on culture. If a guy from (has brown skin) Paralivia comes here,his culture would be of more import to me than who his parents were.
You kidding me aboutChad? It is a normal practice for warring villages to kill people in their beds. Bad culture. I don't even know what race they are. Don't want 'em around here.
And you don't either. Hey...'you're not fooling anyone.'
** What IS their race?
@AverageJoe1 saidSo Marauder does not respond specifically . What a surprise. Maybe sonhouse will take it.
First, you surprise me that an official should base his govt decisions on his personal family history. We need to drive the Shia Law people out as I speak, and yet you are saying that if his inlaws were Shia, that he should pressure the legislature to allow Shia Law. That is EXACTLY what you suggest here. Sick. You might want to drop that stupid line. Stupid.
We ...[text shortened]... d moral as nothing to do with it....unless you want to just do health care for 6 or 7 billion people
@AverageJoe1 saidHere's my "specific" response:
But you cannot ignore that it is impossible to have them as part of the contract, n'est-ce pas? But I have an answer for them, if they want to keep living in a country that is not their country 🤔
They can buy health insurance. I just said that.
For the record, dems are today putting the indigent on a starvation course. If we had MarauderCare, there would be a ...[text shortened]... ound here.
And you don't either. Hey...'you're not fooling anyone.'
** What IS their race?
You're an ignorant bigot.
I have no intention of wasting further time with idiots like you.
I realize you don't understand this, but we want immigration. Every economic study shows the US greatly benefits from it.Any number between 12M and 22M immigrants flowed in here after Biden became president. So, they are here. You follow, I am sure.
If you had your liberal way, socialism, the works, they would all be covered by our healthcare today.
That OK?