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A Republican Comes Out as Gay TransWoman of Color

A Republican Comes Out as Gay TransWoman of Color

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@jimmac said
No, it is not, he is simply highlighting the absurdity of their claims. As is often the case these days, the truth can hurt, but it is never cruel. BTW, in Australia, if a government job is being set aside for an " Aboriginal ", one only needs to tick the box that says you are aboriginal to be eligible to apply. No questions will be asked. Totally absurd.
Yes, trans people are beat up or killed, are driven to suicide, can't hold jobs. They can't wait to declare themselves as such for these wonderful perks.


"BTW, in Australia, if a government job is being set aside for an " Aboriginal ", one only needs to tick the box that says you are aboriginal to be eligible to apply. No questions will be asked."
You've been waiting to mention this to someone for a while now, am i right?


@zahlanzi said
Yes, trans people are beat up or killed, are driven to suicide, can't hold jobs. They can't wait to declare themselves as such for these wonderful perks.


"BTW, in Australia, if a government job is being set aside for an " Aboriginal ", one only needs to tick the box that says you are aboriginal to be eligible to apply. No questions will be asked."
You've been waiting to mention this to someone for a while now, am i right?
Really?? not sure I see the relevance, are you tying to claim that bowing to their delusions will reduce that sad state of affairs. And sad it is, yet no amount of "affirmation" will reduce that. Or are you of the belief that if someone believes that they are a cat, then agreeing with them will help them. I believe that we all are what we are, accept that and move on. I get that there are bad things going on, do you believe that insisting that we bow to these modern age "gods" will help them. For Gods some seem to believe that they are. It will and can only make it worse for them.


@kellyjay said
This is the point, in a manufacturing setting the product that comes down the line all are part of the normal process flow, nothing gets put ahead of any other they are all equally important. Now, from time to time there may be an order that becomes special, they get flagged as a hot request, and they jump past everything in front of them to get out the door in a hurry, they ...[text shortened]... es that should have set them apart are now meaningless, anyone can claim it makes them no different.
Do you really hold these people in such low regard as to claim they are all "faking it" to gain benefit? Of course I'm talking about all the people the right has kept down for ages. Racial minorities, women, disabled, gay, trans.

Of course the right has to say what you're saying in order to further hold them down. It's merely the new way to show off how much you hate people who aren't like you.


@jimmac said
Really?? not sure I see the relevance, are you tying to claim that bowing to their delusions will reduce that sad state of affairs. And sad it is, yet no amount of "affirmation" will reduce that. Or are you of the belief that if someone believes that they are a cat, then agreeing with them will help them. I believe that we all are what we are, accept that and move on. I get th ...[text shortened]... help them. For Gods some seem to believe that they are. It will and can only make it worse for them.
The hyperbole is getting deep in here.


@kellyjay said
The left if I'm not mistaken a Supreme Court Justice and a couple of others in office.
Yeah I think you're mistaken. Right wingers stumble all over themselves with that question, talking about wives and uteruses and chromosomes. They seem to have no idea what a woman is.

If I remember correctly, Ted Cruz had to look up the dictionary definition which is " an adult female" but then he couldn't explain what a female was.


@jimmac said
Really?? not sure I see the relevance, are you tying to claim that bowing to their delusions will reduce that sad state of affairs. And sad it is, yet no amount of "affirmation" will reduce that. Or are you of the belief that if someone believes that they are a cat, then agreeing with them will help them. I believe that we all are what we are, accept that and move on. I get th ...[text shortened]... help them. For Gods some seem to believe that they are. It will and can only make it worse for them.
" Or are you of the belief that if someone believes that they are a cat, then agreeing with them will help them"
Gender fluidity has been around for thousands of years and it has been documented. Someone believing they are a cat is not the same thing or that tired and old cliche "i identify as an apache attack helicopter"

"I believe that we all are what we are, accept that and move on."
Trans people also believe that they are what they are. You don't accept that and you can't move on.

"do you believe that insisting that we bow to these modern age "gods" will help them"
Teens commiting suicide because they are sent to christian gay conversion camps or denied living as the gender they feel more comfortable as while people who are accepted by their society and their loved ones are thriving and happy leads to the conclusion that, surprisingly, i know, acceptance and tolerance is better than hate and bigotry

"For Gods some seem to believe that they are."
Yeah, we are so envious of the god-like status of trans people in our society. Who wouldn't want to be at risk to be beaten up or fired or have nazis protesting outside the bar you want to relax with your friends.

I must say, i have seen hateful bigots but i never seen envious bigots. Looking at a queen and saying "damn it's not fair she is this fabulous in a sparkly dress and every single door in society is open to her"


@suzianne said
Do you really hold these people in such low regard as to claim they are all "faking it" to gain benefit? Of course I'm talking about all the people the right has kept down for ages. Racial minorities, women, disabled, gay, trans.

Of course the right has to say what you're saying in order to further hold them down. It's merely the new way to show off how much you hate people who aren't like you.
These people are just people, what their motivation is going to vary from person to person, making blanket statements about their virtue is hardly justifiable. Regardless of the their motivation biology doesn’t change no matter what.


@kellyjay said
These people are just people, what their motivation is going to vary from person to person, making blanket statements about their virtue is hardly justifiable. Regardless of the their motivation biology doesn’t change no matter what.
Let me ask you this: Is your sense of who you are connected to the body you have, or the mind you have?

The mind is the self, not the body.

You'd rather judge someone on their looks, instead of who they are.

This is what has driven racism all these years. And sexism. And now your fear of "the other" has new victims. Good job. "Depart from me, I never knew you" indeed.


@suzianne said
Let me ask you this: Is your sense of who you are connected to the body you have, or the mind you have?

The mind is the self, not the body.

You'd rather judge someone on their looks, instead of who they are.

This is what has driven racism all these years. And sexism. And now your fear of "the other" has new victims. Good job. "Depart from me, I never knew you" indeed.
My sense of who I am and my biology are connected, as my past and everything else about me, somethings about us are fluid, some are fixed, and biology is fixed. If someone were to get surgery to add or remove body parts that will not alter their biological sex, it will just mean they are who they are biologically, with body parts added or removed.

If can you identify to be a different sex, how about nationality, height, weight, or alter historical facts about yourself, or your bank account numbers, why do you think we can ignore biological facts just by our feelings, senses, or desires? This is purely a disconnect from reality and people are just going along with it as if something in reality has changed outside of an opinion.


@suzianne said
Let me ask you this: Is your sense of who you are connected to the body you have, or the mind you have?

The mind is the self, not the body.

You'd rather judge someone on their looks, instead of who they are.

This is what has driven racism all these years. And sexism. And now your fear of "the other" has new victims. Good job. "Depart from me, I never knew you" indeed.
The problem is the desperate "need" to force others to believe something that is a blatant lie and is totally unnecessary for the rest of us to believe anyway. Except that is to divide and conquer. "forcing" people into multiple sub categories and then pitting them against each other. The whole trans movement is so full of hate. That will get people to love them, won't it. They are desperately trying to eliminate what woman have fought for, for so long that real Woman are starting to fight back. The whole thing is stupid and defies logic but so many seem to have embraced the hate, so go for it.
You seem to so readily call those that refuse to believe your "falsehoods" Transphobes, yet that is also intentionally divisive and hateful. Simply because I happen to believe that a man is a man is a man, end of story, you automatically extrapolate to assume them phobic. That is your perverted default position.
None of what I say is to in any way minimize the circumstance that some find themselves in, in any way, but facts can not be changed.


@kellyjay said
How do you define a trans woman? They have so tied themselves into knots they cannot even define a woman. All because a biological male says he is, a she, therefore everyone seems to think everyone else needs to join and be a part of his illusion and call him her.
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Couldn't agree more. What is a woman??

And it bothers no liberal the fact that there is no scientific test to find out if a person is male or female by their definition.

The King wears no clothes!

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@jimmac said
The problem is the desperate "need" to force others to believe something that is a blatant lie and is totally unnecessary for the rest of us to believe anyway. Except that is to divide and conquer. "forcing" people into multiple sub categories and then pitting them against each other. The whole trans movement is so full of hate. That will get people to love them, won't it. The ...[text shortened]... ay minimize the circumstance that some find themselves in, in any way, but facts can not be changed.
Similar to the five year old's "I know you are, but what about me?"


The right has a decades long history of fear of the "other" and "divide and conquer". In fact they're doing it now. How dare you flip that on us. Projection, that is.

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@earl-of-trumps said
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Couldn't agree more. What is a woman??

And it bothers no liberal the fact that there is no scientific test to find out if a person is male or female by their definition.

The King wears no clothes!
I am a woman because in my head I am a woman.

I just so happened to be lucky to be born in the right body.

Some are not so lucky, but you simply don't give a damn. They make you uncomfortable, and so how dare they make you uncomfortable.


@suzianne said
I am a woman because in my head I am a woman.

I just so happened to be lucky to be born in the right body.

Some are not so lucky, but you simply don't give a damn. They make you uncomfortable, and so how dare they make you uncomfortable.
Wow, like so many you actually believe that, Just like magic, I could become a Woman. That is absurd. Whilst I believe that an active imagination is great, it should never get in the way of reality.
And curious, whats this about Earl, not giving a damn. I suspect that you would claim I don't give a damn either. That is not true, but my saying so is unlikely to placate that. I simply do not believe in fairy tales, no pun intended.


@kellyjay said
These people are just people, what their motivation is going to vary from person to person, making blanket statements about their virtue is hardly justifiable. Regardless of the their motivation biology doesn’t change no matter what.
“ Regardless of the their motivation biology doesn’t change no matter what.”
Yeah it definitely does, the tendency to change is one of the basic hallmarks of biology.
No two biological individuals are exactly alike but you insist that we are all clones. Have you heard about evolution? One of its base drivers is the reality of random mutation / variation.

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