@earl-of-trumps saidWhat? I see that crap every time I walk into a bar.
Would you like to see males in your face all the time telling you how manly they are?
Jesus.
@earl-of-trumps saidYep, I do.
Still like this system of categorizing by mind instead of the body? It used to be simple π
And it is still simple. Ask them.
And you've heard of psychoanalysis, yes?
@kellyjay saidYou keep ignoring every single thing I've said on this during this thread.
Difficult to find one’s truth self when you reject who you are. Biology doesn’t change with the wind. I have not made this about a religious worldview I have stayed with a very simple truth, men are men and women are women.
You are pushing reality can change due to hate and so on as if our thoughts can alter reality when in fact they only touch our opinions and worldviews not reality it self.
TLDR: Biology does not change with the wind, this much is true. But neither does the mind. You disrespect these people by claiming their view on whether they are male or female in their own head "changes with the wind", when it does not. Many times in this thread have I said that it is mind, not body that determines gender, yet you still bang on that "biology does not change". I also agree that men are men and women are women, but that basic difference begins in the mind. The body is just usually along for the ride, but yes, sometimes "stuff happens" and "nature" doesn't get it right.
You also keep banging on about how a person's opinion about what gender they are changes with the wind, when it emphatically does not. How many decades must a man live in a woman's body (or vice versa) before gender-affirming surgery becomes necessary for peace of mind as well as a blessed relief? And then, even after all that, here come people like you, getting in their face about it, when you just have no idea what you're talking about.
No, reality cannot change. I'm just asking that you consider accepting their reality as they accept yours.
@earl-of-trumps saidThis is why these who pursue surgery undergo psychoanalysis.
Pssssttt.. Suzie,
Did you ever hear of liars? Some do this for fun and profit. Yes, Suzie
As I said earlier, going down this road is a long, long way to go for simple "fun and profit". But it's not very far to go at all, for finally knowing your mind and body agree on their gender.
Again, why does the right have so little respect for these people that they simply assume they are liars?
Yeah, yeah, I get it. It's easier than actually understanding them and their issues.