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A small primer on what Oligarchy is about

A small primer on what Oligarchy is about

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@AverageJoe1 said
Jesus. Is that you , Marauder? Ok , I am in the business of making those plastic bags that your wife puts in the trash cans. I crank them out by the millions. Do you think I could send a few hundred workers out to make plastic bags that your wife put in the trash cans?
Unbelievable.
But wait, you are saying not plastic bags, but data centers. Hello. Is that you marauder?
You crank out nothing. Workers do.

And they could crank them out whether you existed or not.


@KingDavid403 said
F- Oligarchs, F- Musk, F-Trump and his worshippers as you; and F-you. You couldn't teach anyone anything if your life depended on it.
Personal unfounded opinions without basis are good, in that they give me a few minutes to refresh my drink.


@no1marauder said
You crank out nothing. Workers do.

And they could crank them out whether you existed or not.
You seem to miss it all together, but I know, you silly goose, that you only pretend to, to curry favor amongst your fans. Frankly, I gotta hand it to you, it is sworking they hang on your every comment.

So Henry Ford did not build cars, actually teams of workers did, on his assembly lines. Theoretically, a band of trained monkeys could have built the cars!!!!


@AverageJoe1 said
Amazing. Cant believe this one. I could do analogies all day with this one.
Let’s say I have a big boat that I bought just for fun and it sits in dry dock , holds maybe 500 people. A bunch of pitiful wretches are fleeing Hitler, looking for a safe place in the Americas during the war.. I go down to the dock, pay some men to drop the boat into the water, and then pay ...[text shortened]... om are accolades written in the morning papers? The owner does not even know how to start this boat.
Marauder...did you not see this one? Too stiff for your blood?


@wildgrass said
Yikes Joe. Your position is that businesses are "shackled" if they aren't given consolidated power in governments to control spending and regulatory policy?

I... Uh... Disagree.
Note I said 'shackled Ford or Rockefeller', in the early 1900s. Like, do you get it, that they would not have been able to....to.... oh, never mind. Could you write your response to be an appropriate response to this sentence. Your response is about something else,,,,,I wonder if such regulations ever even existed in their times. They were thus free-wheeling, and golly , there are 100s and 100s of cars all over the place, taking kids to school. 100s. Soon there may be 1000s if you will , well, let them get rich. It will make everyone rich. If the candy-maker can get a truck made by Ford, he can put away his horse carriage and start delivering his candy in a motorized vehicle. His name is Mr. Nestle.

Jesus. A bit late for you to be up, I spect.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
'Biden’s $7.5 billion EV charging stations program, which promised half a million installations, still has over 499,990 to go after three years. President Biden signed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law in November 2021, allocating $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging, of which $5 billion is dedicated to building a network of chargers along major highways, called ...[text shortened]... washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/the-42-billion-internet-program-that-has-connected-0-people
Oh, so THAT is why Trump KILLED EV's and we will go back to fuuking up the atmosphere so we can melt the ice in Greenland and get rid of Florida and southern California.
I never realized till now just what the agenda is with Trump. Now we know why he killed EV's.
I think another reason he did that is because Musk pisses him off, he has had enough of Musk nudging his way into every aspect of Trump's life, even getting a room in Mar A Lago.


@AverageJoe1 said
You seem to miss it all together, but I know, you silly goose, that you only pretend to, to curry favor amongst your fans. Frankly, I gotta hand it to you, it is sworking they hang on your every comment.

So Henry Ford did not build cars, actually teams of workers did, on his assembly lines. Theoretically, a band of trained monkeys could have built the cars!!!!
Here's a simple truth you are too servile to understand:

Oligarchs need workers.

Workers don't need Oligarchs.


@AverageJoe1 said
Note I said 'shackled Ford or Rockefeller', in the early 1900s. Like, do you get it, that they would not have been able to....to.... oh, never mind. Could you write your response to be an appropriate response to this sentence. Your response is about something else,,,,,I wonder if such regulations ever even existed in their times. They were thus free-wheeling, and goll ...[text shortened]... y in a motorized vehicle. His name is Mr. Nestle.

Jesus. A bit late for you to be up, I spect.
There's a reason why Carnegie and Rockefeller were not labeled as oligarchs.

Can you guess what that reason is?


@MartinS said
Were you rooting for endless wars?

Not at all; I just fear the lunatic with cripple world economies
How would Trump cripple world economies?


@sonhouse said
Oh, so THAT is why Trump KILLED EV's and we will go back to fuuking up the atmosphere so we can melt the ice in Greenland and get rid of Florida and southern California.
I never realized till now just what the agenda is with Trump. Now we know why he killed EV's.
I think another reason he did that is because Musk pisses him off, he has had enough of Musk nudging his way into every aspect of Trump's life, even getting a room in Mar A Lago.
EVs still use mainly fossil fuel generated electricity.
Why do you always fail to be aware of that?

Biden put 100% tariffs on EVs from China. Trump did not kill EVs. Why do you keep spreading misinformation?


@Metal-Brain said
How would Trump cripple world economies?
"A Trump victory would make America poor again. If the GOP nominee's economic agenda is enacted, it could trigger a depression"

"The global economy is set to flatline this year amid fears including fresh US tariffs hitting trade, the World Bank has warned."

"The World Bank said even a 10% increase in US tariffs on imports from every country would reduce global economic growth by 0.2% if countries did not retaliate. If they did, the global economy could be hit harder, Mr Kose added.

"Anytime you introduce restrictions on trade there will be adverse consequences which are most often endured by the country that introduced them," he said."


@wildgrass said
There's a reason why Carnegie and Rockefeller were not labeled as oligarchs.

Can you guess what that reason is?
Because the Rockefellers and JP Morgan bought up news media outlets so nobody would know. Carnegie sold his steel monopoly to JP Morgan. Guess who funded most of William McKinley's presidential campaign? Which president started US imperialism?

Oligarchs have controlled this nation since 1898 when the US became an empire. Back then they were called robber barons. Same thing.


@MartinS said
"A Trump victory would make America poor again. If the GOP nominee's economic agenda is enacted, it could trigger a depression"

"The global economy is set to flatline this year amid fears including fresh US tariffs hitting trade, the World Bank has warned."

"The World Bank said even a 10% increase in US tariffs on imports from every country would reduce global economic ...[text shortened]... be adverse consequences which are most often endured by the country that introduced them," he said."
The GOP nominee's economic agenda is the same as Biden's. Biden continued Trump's tariff policy.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/biden-sharply-hikes-us-tariffs-billions-chinese-chips-cars-2024-05-14/

Why didn't Biden's tariff hikes trigger a depression?


@Metal-Brain said
The GOP nominee's economic agenda is the same as Biden's. Biden continued Trump's tariff policy.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/biden-sharply-hikes-us-tariffs-billions-chinese-chips-cars-2024-05-14/

Why didn't Biden's tariff hikes trigger a depression?
Trump promised his policies would be extreme to MAGA

However; upon reading numerous articles over the last few hours, it seems he may be going to modify all the extreme policies he promised (ie lied to get elected) and is breaking those promises already.

However, I am happy with that; hope there are still a few sane advisors to keep him under control.

Regards


@MartinS said
Trump promised his policies would be extreme to MAGA

However; upon reading numerous articles over the last few hours, it seems he may be going to modify all the extreme policies he promised (ie lied to get elected) and is breaking those promises already.

However, I am happy with that; hope there are still a few sane advisors to keep him under control.

Regards
You made that up. Extreme to MAGA? Could you get any more vague?
I would ask for your source of info, but I know it does not exist.

Stop spreading disinformation.

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