@Earl-of-Trumps saidThese super slim people often work on increasing muscle using protein powders to help with their frequent gym use. After a few months of using one to counteract sarcopenia in my early 60’s I discovered I had a raised liver enzyme which rapidly increased with the addition of a newly prescribed Statin leading to a liver scan. My doctor was convinced I had an alcohol problem causing fatty liver disease. After stopping the protein powder and statins my liver has returned to normal. My diet has improved with growing organic veg that’s not sprayed with pesticides, insecticides and herbicides. My bible - https://robertlustig.com/metabolical/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13920613/Alarming-rise-super-fit-slim-young-people-suffering-heart-attacks-experts-reveal-theories-surge.html
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A number of factors are thought to be at play including rampant drug use, obesity, sedentary lifestyles and bad diets. But the timing strongly implies the Covid pandemic has played a role.
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had Trump been reelected, many many lives would have been saved.
It’s processed food which is really unhealthy.
And people drinking fruit juice instead of eating fruit (all the sugars and none of the fibres).
The US has this processed food fetish, which has been going on for decades. Europe, for example, is only just catching up.
And Lo! And Behold! There are wee fat fvckers everywhere…
Anyhoo… the stomach makes a hormone which tells the brain: you are hungry, you are full and you are not hungry.
Now, research has shown that certain situations disturb this hormone production. For example: long term insomnia.
So, people with apnea and the like generally gain weight. The hormone just isn’t doing what it’s supposed to be doing.
There is some debate over why there was less obesity 100 years ago.
Was there just less food and people ate what they could get, did hard labour and if they were hungry they couldn’t do anything about it?
Or, alternatively, has something in the food chain distrupted the hormone that a great many people are becoming obese?
Or, maybe a combination combined with a lot less heavy labour being done?
If you go to the McDonalds… do you chew a hamburger or do you basically slurp it?
And that’s when you know it’s probably not very healthy.
Go to a butchers, ask them to mince a steak (or a other cut) for you, make your own burger (egg, onions, herbs, etc), put it on proper bread… you can’t slurp it. That’s serious chewing, better taste and much healthier for you.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidSuper fit slim people are suffering from obesity and sedentary lifestyles?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13920613/Alarming-rise-super-fit-slim-young-people-suffering-heart-attacks-experts-reveal-theories-surge.html
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A number of factors are thought to be at play including rampant drug use, obesity, sedentary lifestyles and bad diets. But the timing strongly implies the Covid pandemic has played a role.
The virus itself c ...[text shortened]... --------------------------------
had Trump been reelected, many many lives would have been saved.
What's so fit and slim about them?
@AThousandYoung saidthey don’t suffer nearly enough from it. They revel in it.
Super fit slim people are suffering from obesity and sedentary lifestyles?
People have so much trouble avoiding the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy and/or conflating correlation with causation.
All these "alarming" rises in whatever are attributed either to covid by the branch covidians ("we should have locked down until covid was eradicated" ) or to the vaccines by the anti-vaxxers or to the lockdowns by the anti-lockdown people.
There is no way to know the cause or combination of causes (or lack of causation of anything but bad luck or outlier events) even if we could identify a true increase in these sorts of events (which itself is doubtful).
@Rajk999 saidI watched a health presentation once and they showed what meat consumption was like at the turn of the 20th century and typically people ate meat once or twice a week. As the frequency of meat consumption increases you see a whole bunch of illnesses start to manifest themselves. Now bypassing the whole correlation does not equal causation debate, meat consumption has gone through the roof around the western world and a majority of Americans consume meat multiple times a day compared to once or twice a week and the meat they eat multiple times a day tends to be highly processed. So does obesity and diabetes and heart disease follow eating copious amounts of highly processed meat as part of a sedentary lifestyle where the major economic activity is no longer dictated by physical effort but rather mental effort?
Here is another thing I look at. The same country over time. Back in the 1930s the USA apparently had no such thing as heart disease, obesity was rare, autism, ADHD and gender confusion were unheard of. Then came seed oils .. canola, corn soya, high fructose corn syrup and lots of other things.
I just think we've been sold down the river by our taste buds with targeted ratios of sugar and salt we find irresistible to our detriment.
@kmax87 saidIm with you on the problems caused by processed meats, sugar and salt. These have gone sky high and contributes to lots of health issues. What Im not sure of is your comment that meat consumption [real meat] say 100 years ago was less than today. Check this page and see what you think. It appears that around the early 1900s there was far more meat and less veg and fruits consumed in the USA.
I watched a health presentation once and they showed what meat consumption was like at the turn of the 20th century and typically people ate meat once or twice a week. As the frequency of meat consumption increases you see a whole bunch of illnesses start to manifest themselves. Now bypassing the whole correlation does not equal causation debate, meat consumption has gone thro ...[text shortened]... iver by our taste buds with targeted ratios of sugar and salt we find irresistible to our detriment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8805510/
@kmax87 saidI'd blame empty carbs and fried foods before meat. Meat is high in protein, many important vitamins and iron. It's also not that easy to eat enough meat to really make you fat. To get as many calories as a big mac and fries, you'd have to eat about 15 ounces of steak, which will make most people super-full.
I watched a health presentation once and they showed what meat consumption was like at the turn of the 20th century and typically people ate meat once or twice a week. As the frequency of meat consumption increases you see a whole bunch of illnesses start to manifest themselves. Now bypassing the whole correlation does not equal causation debate, meat consumption has gone thro ...[text shortened]... iver by our taste buds with targeted ratios of sugar and salt we find irresistible to our detriment.
The empty calories like ubiquitous drink sweeteners, cookies and pastries that are floating all over the place, and the fact that fast food joints fry everything because it's a cheap way to make their crap taste good are far worse problems.
I don't have the willpower, I've seen people who go on very high protein very low carb diets lose weight and get healthier in myriads of ways.
@Earl-of-Trumps
Trump getting reelected would save 'many many lives'? So you are trying to rewrite history again. And again. And again.
Trump has the deaths of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Covid deaths on his hand because of his totally incompetent way he handled it the first time.
He KNEW it was a deadly disease early on but month after month went by with Trump saying crap like 'it will all be over by Easter' or ingest disinfectant, kills covid in minutes.
BESIDES that blue states that bought PPE and paid for were hijacked by Trump and given to red states and THAT BTW is an absolute fact, which no doubt you want to totally ignore.
He said publicly "I am not your pharmacy'.
Your disgusting array of history rewrites is just that, DISGUSTING.
You are one perverted SOB for trying to faun that BS on us. WE WERE THERE and saw how he handled it. Then putting down Fauci, the only one who had a chance of coming up with a vaccine.
You need to go back to the planet you originally came from because it for sure wasn't Earth.
@sh76 saidYes it's not the salad but the salad dressing that'll get you. Or the sauces or whatever they wrap the meat in.
I'd blame empty carbs and fried foods before meat. Meat is high in protein, many important vitamins and iron. It's also not that easy to eat enough meat to really make you fat. To get as many calories as a big mac and fries, you'd have to eat about 15 ounces of steak, which will make most people super-full.
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@kmax87 said"Salads" are another fast food scam.
Yes it's not the salad but the salad dressing that'll get you. Or the sauces or whatever they wrap the meat in.
They make you think it's healthy so you're willing to buy and even pay more for it.
So they take a bed of lettuce and throw on some random fresh fruits and veggies. But then they add a truckload of meat or chicken, fried croutons, high fat nuts, cheese and drench it in 50-calorie-per teaspoon dressing that's loaded with oil and sugar.
Now, look, I'm not saying a fast food salad is a worse choice than a Big Mac and fries, and for a meal, it's probably fine on balance. But don't fool people into thinking they're going to lose weight by eating a million fast food and airport "salads."