@AverageJoe1 saidIt's Leo X1V you moron. May he strike you down.
Pope”not a Trump fan?!?!?,”
“The Church rejects the misguided view of human nature expressed in both totalitarian left-wing ideologies and unfettered free market capitalism. On the one hand, Leo XIII's encyclical condemned socialism, confirmed the rights of private property and supported trade unions.”
This is Trump in Pope vestments.
@AThousandYoung saidGolly send that thread number again….
Apparently you haven't seen the things that Dodger (Cliff Mashburn is his current handle) and Eladar have called me when my posts made them rage.
EDIT I encourage you to take a look at Thread 202474. Notice Mike69's deleted posts. Why do you think they got deleted?
@spruce112358 saidBecause he's responsible for what his organization does, or in this case failed to do, namely, turn evidence of wrongdoing over to civil authorities for prosecution instead of systematically covering up and denying.
Why would anyone apologize for something someone else did? That’s horses**t.
@Rajk999 saidOf course. Swearing is a sign of intelligence. 😆
It is obvious that the Democrats and their supporters use far more vulgarities and obscenities on this site, while the Republicans dont generally do it. Maybe my analysis was incorrect but there must be some good reason for this positive correlaton.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness 😆
@moonbus saidNo, Pope Leo XIV is not responsible for the past. The Church teaches that every individual has free will, and that individuals will frequently choose to sin, even though they should not. In the Church, sin (and forgiveness) happen at the individual level, not the institutional level.
Because he's responsible for what his organization does, or in this case failed to do, namely, turn evidence of wrongdoing over to civil authorities for prosecution instead of systematically covering up and denying.
The blanket condemnations of the Catholic Faith have gone too far, and blanket apologies just encourage more blanket condemnations.
A specific priest, incident, cover-up - sure - let's condemn that. As Jesus said, 'Render under Caesar that which is Caesar's' so civil law must be followed, i.e. someone who breaks the law must face civil justice - the Church has always been clear on that.
The Church also teaches that there is NO sin that God cannot forgive. There is nothing you can do that will make God abandon you. You can turn away from God, but he will never turn away from you. People who find that teaching valuable in their lives show up to mass.
'For all are sinners and fall short of the glory of God.' 🙂
@spruce112358 saidThe Pope is responsible for ensuring the safety of the flock and for setting up procedures to accomplish that, even if he personally didn't abuse any choir boys. His predecessors failed, and he cannot not know this. Francis got told off in no uncertain terms when he visited the NL. Benedict got told off in no uncertain terms when he merely "prayed" for those who survived abuse.
No, Pope Leo XIV is not responsible for the past. The Church teaches that every individual has free will, and that individuals will frequently choose to sin, even though they should not. In the Church, sin (and forgiveness) happen at the individual level, not the institutional level.
The blanket condemnations of the Catholic Faith have gone too far, and blanket apolog ...[text shortened]... able in their lives show up to mass.
'For all are sinners and fall short of the glory of God.' 🙂
@spruce112358 saidWhat a load of nonsense. Forget the Catholic Church. People all over the world, have a duty, and are required by law to report any case of child abuse. This is mandatory. Someone might escape the law for not reporting murder in certain jurisdictions, but child abuse, rape of children and other forms of abuse of children the law is very clear. It must be reported to the authorities. This is worldwide.
No, Pope Leo XIV is not responsible for the past. The Church teaches that every individual has free will, and that individuals will frequently choose to sin, even though they should not. In the Church, sin (and forgiveness) happen at the individual level, not the institutional level.
The blanket condemnations of the Catholic Faith have gone too far, and blanket apolog ...[text shortened]... able in their lives show up to mass.
'For all are sinners and fall short of the glory of God.' 🙂
Try to do some research instead of protecting criminals.
@moonbus saidIndeed... also Catholic priests who were caught in this acts, were often transferred to another jurisdiction, as if that is punishment. All it did is give the pervert another batch of people to abuse.
The Pope is responsible for ensuring the safety of the flock and for setting up procedures to accomplish that, even if he personally didn't abuse any choir boys. His predecessors failed, and he cannot not know this. Francis got told off in no uncertain terms when he visited the NL. Benedict got told off in no uncertain terms when he merely "prayed" for those who survived abuse.
@Rajk999 saidReprehensible. The bishops who knew about this should be turned over to civil authorities for prosecution as accomplices.
Indeed... also Catholic priests who were caught in this acts, were often transferred to another jurisdiction, as if that is punishment. All it did is give the pervert another batch of people to abuse.
@Rajk999 saidWith over 400,000 plausible cases of abuse reported in France, and another 300,000 in Spain, it is high time civil authorities stopped treating the Church with such deference.
Yes, but for some reason religious institutions are allowed to escape the law. Same thing happens to JWs and other sects as well.
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@spruce112358 saidPope should apologize to all of the young boys that the Catholic clergy has abused.
Why would anyone apologize for something someone else did? That’s horses**t.
Trump is an ungodly fool who has done many unrighteous and extremely foolish things. Trump should apologize to the Pope - and then shut his damn mouth, for good! 😆
@AverageJoe1 saidExcept his ecclesiastical name is Leo XIV.
Pope”not a Trump fan?!?!?,”
“The Church rejects the misguided view of human nature expressed in both totalitarian left-wing ideologies and unfettered free market capitalism. On the one hand, Leo XIII's encyclical condemned socialism, confirmed the rights of private property and supported trade unions.”
This is Trump in Pope vestments.
And, unlike Trump, or the entire Trumpublican Party, he cares for the poor and downtrodden.
Not just white South Africans.