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@Mott-The-Hoople said
"Competitive balance".

BAM! we have a winner

now get your girls with dicks out of it
You've seen these "dicks"?


@no1marauder said
You've seen these "dicks"?
dont have to see them, any person with common sense can tell

it is suspicious why you take such great umbrage with this subject, why dont you let us know what is your affliction?
what do you have to say to the women that have been discriminated against by this?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
"Competitive balance".

BAM! we have a winner

now get your girls with dicks out of it
I could make a thread out of this one question. Given all of the discussions about surgical procedures regarding these people, changing their bodies around, all claiming to have different designations and categories regarding their gender and sex, and Tran, whatever that means… Does a man who has had his genital area totally wiped out by a car wreck Have his sex changed, or is he still a man.?
This, of course, has to have a simple answer, and I for the life of me cannot decide what it will be… Except that he is still a man. If we can’t get an answer in this thread, I guess I will open it up in a new thread. I may have to mention names. One has to quote sources on the forum.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
dont have to see them, any person with common sense can tell

it is suspicious why you take such great umbrage with this subject, why dont you let us know what is your affliction?
what do you have to say to the women that have been discriminated against by this?
No women are "discriminated against" by having them compete against other women.


@no1marauder said
No women are "discriminated against" by having them compete against other women.
Exactly correct, not having to compete against women with dicks

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@no1marauder said
No women are "discriminated against" by having them compete against other women.
Hello Marauder..
If a man is in a car wreck and his steering wheel caves into his genitals, cutting it all off, is he still a man?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
Exactly correct, not having to compete against women with dicks
Please leave room in the thread for Marauder to answer this one. I hope he does so that I don't have to post a specific thread on this query. We will give him a couple of days.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
Exactly correct, not having to compete against women with dicks
Remember the good ole days when a woman had a womb and you didn’t have to worry about any unwanted surprises. This all makes last call for alcohol very dangerous.

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@AverageJoe1 said
I could make a thread out of this one question. Given all of the discussions about surgical procedures regarding these people, changing their bodies around, all claiming to have different designations and categories regarding their gender and sex, and Tran, whatever that means… Does a man who has had his genital area totally wiped out by a car wreck Have his sex changed, ...[text shortened]... will open it up in a new thread. I may have to mention names. One has to quote sources on the forum.
Mostly in our society, we go by self-reporting. When you go to the DMV to get a license or ID, you check a box M or F (I'll have a hypothetical on this later that I insist you answer). So if someone who identifies as a man loses his genitals due to a catastrophic accident but still identifies as male, I'd say he was a male (note by your prior proposed definition which relied on reproductive ability this person wouldn't be male or female). But suppose this person said "Well, I never liked having those genitals anyway; I'm going to get a vaginoplasty and identify as a woman". I'd say he was now a woman the other right wingers say he's a man with a vagina. How about you?

Okay, A DMV hypothetical: you and your wife go to the DMV to renew your licenses. You fill out the forms marking your sex as "M" and your wife's as "F". The clerk takes then and says:

Clerk: Okay, you and your wife will have to disrobe so we can check and make sure of your sex.

YOU: No way!

Clerk: Sorry, it's required by a Presidential Executive Order that if you drive on any interstate roads or roads that connect to them, we have to verify your sex by visual inspection by 20 clerks or the Federal government can take away our highway funding.

Would you say that was within the President's powers? Why or why not?

Hypothetical two:

You're at the hospital and your daughter is giving birth. The baby emerges and after a quick visual inspection the doctor declares "It's a girl!" Everybody is happy at this joyous occasion.

Two days later, you're sitting in your daughter's hospital room with her and little Joeanne, and the same doctor comes in. He says:

Doctor (embarrassed): I'm sorry there's been a mistake. We did a chromosome test on Joeanne and he has XY and is therefore a man by virtue of the President's Executive Order which relies on their "biological sex" at birth..

Joe (outraged): What are you talking about? Look at her "junk" she's got a vagina, ovaries and a uterus!

Doctor: Sorry, the President says that doesn't matter.

What does Joe say now?

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@no1marauder said
Mostly in our society, we go by self-reporting. When you go to the DMV to get a license or ID, you check a box M or F (I'll have a hypothetical on this later that I insist you answer). So if someone who identifies as a man loses his genitals due to a catastrophic accident but still identifies as male, I'd say he was a male (note by your prior proposed definition which re ...[text shortened]... s and a uterus!

Doctor: Sorry, the President says that doesn't matter.

What does Joe say now?
😂
Pitiful fool

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@no1marauder said
Mostly in our society, we go by self-reporting. When you go to the DMV to get a license or ID, you check a box M or F (I'll have a hypothetical on this later that I insist you answer). So if someone who identifies as a man loses his genitals due to a catastrophic accident but still identifies as male, I'd say he was a male (note by your prior proposed definition which re ...[text shortened]... s and a uterus!

Doctor: Sorry, the President says that doesn't matter.

What does Joe say now?
Thank you for analogies.. better than the preaching of you-know-who.
The sum of your post is, as usual, that a man wakes up every day and decides which he would be, man or woman on that day. So he be's a man, and notices that DMV today is giving away a coupon for 20 gallons of free gas to women.
He goes to DMV, (may put on a wig to make it easier, though that is not one of your required elements) and walks up to the coupon office and tells them he is a woman and wants a coupon.
That defrauding of the government is also defrauding the citizens, whose taxes paid for the coupon handout.
I could ramble, like the next day he gets a handout for men only, but let's keep it simple.
What say you.

*Stick around, Mott, may need you for interpretation.

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Hypothetical two:

You're at the hospital and your daughter is giving birth. The baby emerges and after a quick visual inspection the doctor declares "It's a girl!" Everybody is happy at this joyous occasion.

Two days later, you're sitting in your daughter's hospital room with her and little Joeanne, and the same doctor comes in. He says:

Doctor (embarrassed): I'm sorry there's been a mis ...[text shortened]... s and a uterus!

Doctor: Sorry, the President says that doesn't matter.

What does Joe say now?
First, the xy/yy discovery denotes an unfortunate human, sort of like a hemaphrodite, there may be no way to confirm a male or a female. A girl with male chromosomes.... really.... Leave that to the experts......But NOT to an unqualified non-expert like Biden or Trump to 'decide'.
That is an easy one. My opinion? There is no way to say unequivocally that the baby is a male or female. An unfortunate human being. She/he lives his/her life how she wants to and , hey, he/she is not IN YOUR FACE everyday telling people all about it. Maybe a parade!!!

"By virtue of an exec order?!? Please.

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@AverageJoe1 said
First, the xy/yy discovery denotes an unfortunate human, sort of like a hemaphrodite, there may be no way to confirm a male or a female. A girl with male chromosomes.... really.... Leave that to the experts......But NOT to an unqualified non-expert like Biden or Trump to 'decide'.
That is an easy one. My opinion? There is no way to say unequivocally that the baby ...[text shortened]... everyday telling people all about it. Maybe a parade!!!

"By virtue of an exec order?!? Please.
The problem is allowing these individuals with birth defects (1% of population)ruin the lives of women that are normal (99% )

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@AverageJoe1 said
First, the xy/yy discovery denotes an unfortunate human, sort of like a hemaphrodite, there may be no way to confirm a male or a female. A girl with male chromosomes.... really.... Leave that to the experts......But NOT to an unqualified non-expert like Biden or Trump to 'decide'.
That is an easy one. My opinion? There is no way to say unequivocally that the baby ...[text shortened]... everyday telling people all about it. Maybe a parade!!!

"By virtue of an exec order?!? Please.
So not male or female? How can that be?

What if "living their life" includes participating in sporting events?

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
The problem is allowing these individuals with birth defects (1% of population)ruin the lives of women that are normal (99% )
Logic, Mott. Logic always prevails, it is always the basis of thought.
Was it Marauder who said there are 'only' a few tranees in women's sports, to not worry about it? They would only defeat a few numbers of the women with insurmountable dreams. Will he thus say to not delineate this pitiful no-gender human? There are only a few.

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