Another trans "girl" wins two state championships

@spruce112358 said
And yet that is the question. 😆

Theoretically speaking, genotype segregation is more/less impossible. Is it discriminatory to segregate athletes by phenotype?

@wildgrass said
Theoretically speaking, genotype segregation is more/less impossible. Is it discriminatory to segregate athletes by phenotype?

Genotype segregation is perfectly feasible - the UN rapporteur suggested the very thing. You pre-clear athletes with cheek swab during their required physical which they have to have before they compete anyway. Would only need to be referenced in the 0.0001% of cases where there is doubt. 😆

Today, this can be done with zero inconvenience, completely privately and without fuss or publicity.

UNLESS it is deemed discriminatory to segregate athletes by genotype. That's the only hurdle. Hence the Main Question. 😆

@spruce112358 said
Genotype segregation is perfectly feasible - the UN rapporteur suggested the very thing. You pre-clear athletes with cheek swab during their required physical which they have to have before they compete anyway. Would only need to be referenced in the 0.0001% of cases where there is doubt. 😆

Today, this can be done with zero inconvenience, completely privately and with ...[text shortened]... iscriminatory to segregate athletes by genotype. That's the only hurdle. Hence the Main Question. 😆

Oh yo mean chromosomes.

@wildgrass said
Theoretically speaking, genotype segregation is more/less impossible. Is it discriminatory to segregate athletes by phenotype?

Disagreement over phenotype is the problem.

"You look like a guy!"
"No, I'm not!" etc. 😆

@spruce112358 said
Disagreement over phenotype is the problem.

"You look like a guy!"
"No, I'm not!" etc. 😆

I'm old enough to remember in the 90s they got rid of barr body chromosome testing for this exact reason.

@wildgrass said
Oh yo mean chromosomes.

Essentially that is just saying transgender women should be barred from competitions even if there is little evidence that transgender athletes have any unfair competitive advantage over cisgender athletes. It would also bar those with Swyer syndrome even though they have from birth a vagina, ovaries and a uterus.

Why should such blatant discrimination be allowed?

@no1marauder said
Essentially that is just saying transgender women should be barred from competitions even if there is little evidence that transgender athletes have any unfair competitive advantage over cisgender athletes. It would also bar those with Swyer syndrome even though they have from birth a vagina, ovaries and a uterus.

Why should such blatant discrimination be allowed?

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@no1marauder said
Of course I said no such thing, but you lying about my positions and claiming I didn't answer a question I obviously did is SOP for you.

I said follow the rules.

It was not about following the rules. Please reread the question, everyone else seems to understand these questions. Please reread the question. I think it is just one sentence. Has nothing to do with rules, Trump environment, blacks Cubans tranees Englishmen authorities… None of that. Please reread the question and answer and I hate to tell you, it only calls for a yes, or a no.
It is very telling that you will not answer this question. Very telling indeed.. If anybody walks up to the table yo get in, you have to say based on your four months of logic, that they should be allowed to get in. You would hardly make distinctions about someone’s class or race or sex. Can they Enter or not?

Rules???! Follow me here, it is nothing about any rules. The girls swimming at the park swimming pool are just having a race. And a person walks up, any person you can think of it could be a male or a female, of course, but that goes without saying. The girls only just met two hours ago and thought hey y’all let’s have a race. I can’t think of any rules. Why don’t you give us an example of a damn rule.

@wildgrass said
I'm old enough to remember in the 90s they got rid of barr body chromosome testing for this exact reason.

Tests have improved since then. We can make the tests as exact as we please these days. 😆

But testing accuracy is not the main issue.

IS segregation by genotype discriminatory and if so, why? And then why is phenotypic segregation (with the attendant arguing and hoopla and lawsuits) better? 😆

@spruce112358 said
Tests have improved since then. We can make the tests as exact as we please these days. 😆

But testing accuracy is not the main issue.

IS segregation by genotype discriminatory and if so, why? And then why is phenotypic segregation (with the attendant arguing and hoopla and lawsuits) better? 😆

They did not get rid of barr body testing because of accuracy issues.

@spruce112358 said
Genotype segregation is perfectly feasible. Would only need to be referenced in the 0.0001% of cases where there is doubt. 😆

The only single example that has been discussed on this forum is Lia Thomas. Are there any other examples in recent history that could be resolved by barr body test?

@AverageJoe1 said
It was not about following the rules. Please reread the question, everyone else seems to understand these questions. Please reread the question. I think it is just one sentence. Has nothing to do with rules, Trump environment, blacks Cubans tranees Englishmen authorities… None of that. Please reread the question and answer and I hate to tell you, it only calls for a yes, ...[text shortened]... ’all let’s have a race. I can’t think of any rules. Why don’t you give us an example of a damn rule.

What is wrong with you?

Your analogies are all stupid.

@AverageJoe1 said
It was not about following the rules. Please reread the question, everyone else seems to understand these questions. Please reread the question. I think it is just one sentence. Has nothing to do with rules, Trump environment, blacks Cubans tranees Englishmen authorities… None of that. Please reread the question and answer and I hate to tell you, it only calls for a yes, ...[text shortened]... ’all let’s have a race. I can’t think of any rules. Why don’t you give us an example of a damn rule.

I answered this time like I answered similar questions many times before.

Sorry you're too stupid to understand what "play by the rules" means.

And I never, absolutely never, took the position you keep dishonestly saying I did, so try to stop with the lies for a change.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
So the rule is, no men in women’s sports per executive order from Trump. Thx for clearing that up

There aren't any men in women's sports now, jackass.