@mike69 saidHow long do I have to wait in the video before he starts talking about any comparison between transgender women athletes and cisgender women athletes?
https://youtu.be/MJ2NYvlrO2U?si=Xc5BBm5vr0uO5vCc
Thumbs😂? This video is made by a gay lgbtq doctor with a scientific background giving an objective, non biased assessment with facts. It’s reality not agenda based, as it should be!
Please give an exact time in the video where he does so.
@mike69 saidNope at 3:50 he starts talking about differences between the average girl and the average boy. That's not relevant to the issue of whether transgender women athletes have any "unfair" advantage over cisgender women athletes.
3:50
The average cisgender woman elite athlete is far superior to the average cisgender woman. They have many advantages in reflexes, speed, height, eyesight and many other categories (Brittany Griner is 6'9"; would an average transgender woman "dominate" her in basketball?).
Should women with such natural advantages be barred from athletic competitions?
@no1marauder saidOMG, ITS THE START OF IT, THATS WHAT YOU ASKED… Ii assure you it’s there!
Nope at 3:50 he starts talking about differences between the average girl and the average boy. That's not relevant to the issue of whether transgender women athletes have any "unfair" advantage over cisgender women athletes.
The average cisgender woman elite athlete is far superior to the average cisgender woman. They have many advantages in reflexes, speed, height, ey ...[text shortened]... in basketball?).
Should women with such natural advantages be barred from athletic competitions?
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@mike69 saidNo it isn't. I asked for a comparison between transgender women athletes (after transition and preferably hormonal therapy) with cisgender women athletes. Scanning the whole 13 minute video I found a lot of talk about "average" males and "average" females and a whole bunch of editorializing (which are opinions not "facts" ) but no such direct comparison.
OMG, ITS THE START OF IT, THATS WHAT YOU ASKED… Ii assure you it’s there!
I did find this study:
"In other words, as trans women, they were performing at a similar competitive level, compared to other cis women, as they had as cis men compared to other cis men (55).
While data are still scarce, the limited information available does not suggest that trans men and trans women have much, if any, athletic advantage post-transition. Indeed, in most cases they perform more similarly to those matching their gender identity, or somewhere between cis men and women (12, 15, 53–55). If these individuals are performing somewhere between cis men and women on some performance parameters, does it pose a meaningful risk of inequity in sport or risk of athletic injuries, or are concerns for these problems misplacing blame to cover discrimination?."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10641525/
@no1marauder saidIn there
No it isn't. I asked for a comparison between transgender women athletes (after transition and preferably hormonal therapy) with cisgender women athletes. Scanning the whole 13 minute video I found a lot of talk about "average" males and "average" females and a whole bunch of editorializing (which are opinions not "facts" ) but no such direct comparison.
...[text shortened]... ms misplacing blame to cover discrimination?."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10641525/
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@mike69
Talked about, but not limited to bone size , lung sizes, muscle mass and more not changing after the 12 month treatment before trans men can compete with actual woman. Even sue said a real woman has babies unless somethings wrong with them reproductively? It also talked about that all this starts with puberty for boys and elite male athletes in high school can dominate elite women in sports, plus much more. Actually all you have to do is be alive after the age of 11 to 13 to realize there is a difference, you live in a made up fairy tale.
@mike69 saidAnd then Mike realized there was something he missed, called "reality."
@mike69
Talked about, but not limited to bone size , lung sizes, muscle mass and more not changing after the 12 month treatment before trans men can compete with actual woman. Even sue said a real woman has babies unless somethings wrong with them reproductively? It also talked about that all this starts with puberty for boys and elite male athletes in high school can domi ...[text shortened]... alive after the age of 11 to 13 to realize there is a difference, you live in a made up fairy tale.
Well, I can dream.