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@wildgrass said
I did not realize that's what you were thinking. I don't know why any politician would do that. They are not public health officials or medical doctors or in any position to make the call on that. The laws enacted by state governments granted the authority to order mandates. That mandate needs to come from someone who knows that what they are doing benefits public safety. That part seems obvious.
The city of cambridge forced the vaccinations, meaning city political officials.

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@eladar said
The city of cambridge forced the vaccinations, meaning city political officials.
SEMANTICS!

The state was sued and not the city because that's where the legal authority came from.

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@wildgrass said
SEMANTICS!

The state was sued and not the city because that's where the legal authority came from.
Semantics that city officials required the vaccine for living in the city. A city mandate that only applies to those living in the city really means it was made by state level politicians and was really applied to the entire state.


You have a strange point of view which is not historically correct. In other words you believe a lie.

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@Eladar
In other words, you SPREAD the lies. You could live just FINE with the end of democracy in the US.
You think it is WAY OK to not vax even though now over 90% of new covid cases in the US are from the delta variant.
You care NOTHING for actual civic duty which is people doing all they can to limit deaths and wearing masks protects yourself but also others around you when you might have a non symptomatic version of covid and can spread the virus around the world in a million places and wearing a mask can mitigate that problem to a degree, there will be much less deaths if EVERYONE wore masks when out in public.
Oh wait, I forgot, individual freedom is MUCH more important than saving lives.
So you and all the OTHER trumpites will continue to say FREEDOM while at the same time KILLING their neighbors. BTW, this is NOT hyperbole. All you have to do is look at the ASSSHOLES in Mississippi thinking they are some kind of superman or some such rot and spouting, really PUKING, FREEDOM.
There was one case of a woman DYING of covid and one of her last words:

I would rather DIE than get that accursed injection.

You can guess what happened next.

Tell me just how smart was THAT decision AND yours?

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@sonhouse
Exactly what have I written that is a lie?

Face it man, you need your meds.

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@Eladar
"I see nothing wrong with freedom. Nanny State laws need to be declared illegal."

You value your STUPID freedom over actually saving lives by wearing a mask and getting the shots.

That makes you and millions of OTHER assswipes just as bad as you are.

The up side is those asssholes are eliminating themselves when they die and therefore up the level of the average gene pool like in that show dumb and dumber where they show how stupid people can be, like lighting fireworks atop a million gallon natural gas tank, THAT dude they found bits and pieces of a quarter mile away and in that case he blew himself up BEFORE he could shaft his genes on to some unsuspecting female thereby making the gene pool a bit stronger than before.
Same thing going on in Mississippi. I HATE to see all this needless death but they LITERALLY brought this ALL on themselves. There would BE no delta variant if they had all gotten the shot. But HEY, FREEDOM. FREEDOM FREEDOM.

THAT is what freedom means to asssholes like you and those IDIOTS in Mississippi puking FREEDOM, oh wait, I just died so I guess I should have gotten the shot......

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So no lie, just a belief that the US should not be like Communist China. Sorry that you disagree with that belief.

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@Eladar
So you figure it is ok as a society to just let those idiots die.
Do you figure the human race will be better of with those near 700 thousand dead?

You claim to be a SOCIALIST? What a laugh.

You are as much socialist as I am a WHIG.

A socialist government would be the FIRST one to MANDATE masks AND VAX and if you don't, you can be sued, go to jail or community service, whatever, but he gist is a socialist government can MANDATE anything they fukking WANT. Just like Putin. If Putin decided it was in his best interest to vax ALL of Russia, That is exactly what will happen.

So you want the freedom to KILL. THAT is your freedom, FUKKING CHOKE ON IT.

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I want freedom to kill?

I thought vaccinations are highly effective in preventing death from covid. Or is that belief a lie?

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@Eladar
YOU said you don't want to mask even though NOT masking WILL kill people, it's a crap shoot and THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA, those few who have C19 or delta can infect LITERALLY THOUSANDS of people if they are in a crowded beach or in a concert venue with 50,000 attendees.
THAT is the problem. One you will CLEARLY NEVER understand.

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@sonhouse said
@Eladar
YOU said you don't want to mask even though NOT masking WILL kill people, it's a crap shoot and THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA, those few who have C19 or delta can infect LITERALLY THOUSANDS of people if they are in a crowded beach or in a concert venue with 50,000 attendees.
THAT is the problem. One you will CLEARLY NEVER understand.
So you are saying vaccines are not highly effective at preventing death from covid.

Thanks for your input.

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@Eladar
That is NOT what I am saying and you know that full well since you can't actually DEBATE, all you can do is NYA NYA NYA, my ears are plugged up I can't HEAR YOU.

I am SAYING it is the fault of those IDIOTS in Mississippi who DIDN'T vax and now they are paying for it dearly with the entire state hospital system maxed out with covid DELTA.

If they vaxed they would have a leg up on delta since it has been shown the vax protects at least partially from delta, where if you are vaxed, you are some 90 % less likely to have to end up in hospital.
But HEY, FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM.
I want the FREEDOM TO DIE FROM DELTA. I refuse the vax.

So tell me, are there problems in Mississippi or is all that just fake news?

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@sonhouse

So you are saying the vaccines are not effective in preventing death.

If those who do not get the vaccine die because of it, it was their choice. It was their choice and sometimes freedom means death, even needless deaths. Look at all the people who died from taking NSAIDS., let alone alcohol abuse or smoking.

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@eladar said
@sonhouse
Exactly what have I written that is a lie?

Face it man, you need your meds.
You lied about what the Mayo clinic was stating.

When I pointed out to you the source you were quoting was completely wrong about the Mayo clinics information, you stuck by your guns:

Absolutely not.

But your reporting on what they say is completely wrong:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859

As you can see, their information on the effectiveness is exactly the same as all other reliable sources. And completely different to what you are suggesting.

Just because your idiotic right-wing source says the Mayo says something, doesn’t make it so.

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@eladar said
Semantics that city officials required the vaccine for living in the city. A city mandate that only applies to those living in the city really means it was made by state level politicians and was really applied to the entire state.


You have a strange point of view which is not historically correct. In other words you believe a lie.
Sheeeeesh. Get a grip. How's it not historically correct? If the mandate only applied to the city then he'd have sued the darn city.

Instead, the plaintiff sued the state of Massachusetts because the mandate was legally binding throughout the state, was enforced in other parts of the state as well, and also existed throughout 10 other US states at that time. It was actually quite common. The enforcement/execution of the mandates only went into effect in areas where public health officials deemed it was important to prevent unnecessary deaths.

This was a state-wide law that enabled public health officials to mandate vaccinations when necessary. Why would states not leave it up to public health officials to carry out enforcement of mandates?

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