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Originally posted by zeeblebotOf course they use children. I could have told you that. Who else can figure out how to use all the features of all their little gadgets? Plus, they don't even include real instruction manuals with their products. Clearly, Apple gadgets are made by children for children.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7330986/Apple-admits-using-child-labour.html
On a serious note, a few 15 years olds were found working in the factories in Asia. Boo Hoo! I don't see anything inherently wrong with 15 or 16 year olds working. It's just an arbitrary rule of western society that people shouldn't get regular jobs until they're 17 or 18. Through most of human history, 15 or 16 was considered a perfectly legitimate age for people to be working full time. If China or any other country lets 15 year olds work, why is it our business to stop it or sanction it? 15 year olds are adults, at least biologically. That we consider it best to still be in the educational system until 17 or 18 is our societal decision, not a moral imperative.
Originally posted by sh76I discussed this on a previous thread. Basically I argued much the same. In modern times teenagers are largely held back from attaining their full potential based soley upon their age. As a result, teenagers often have issues with assuming responsibility of any kind and often their listlessness extends well into their 20's.
Of course they use children. I could have told you that. Who else can figure out how to use all the features of all their little gadgets? Plus, they don't even include real instruction manuals with their products. Clearly, Apple gadgets are made by children for children.
On a serious note, a few 15 years olds were found working in the factories in Asia. Boo ...[text shortened]... in the educational system until 17 or 18 is our societal decision, not a moral imperative.
Having said that, at what age do you think teenagers should drink alcohol, engage in warfare or even sex?
Originally posted by sh76thats just the top of the article
Of course they use children. I could have told you that. Who else can figure out how to use all the features of all their little gadgets? Plus, they don't even include real instruction manuals with their products. Clearly, Apple gadgets are made by children for children.
On a serious note, a few 15 years olds were found working in the factories in Asia. Boo ...[text shortened]... in the educational system until 17 or 18 is our societal decision, not a moral imperative.
Originally posted by whodeyI have no problem with government regulating underage warfare, sex, drinking or even work. But I don't think there's a moral imperative to do so. If the work age in China is 15, it's not the US' business to force US companies to boycott Chinese labor.
I discussed this on a previous thread. Basically I argued much the same. In modern times teenagers are largely held back from attaining their full potential based soley upon their age. As a result, teenagers often have issues with assuming responsibility of any kind and often their listlessness extends well into their 20's.
Having said that, at what age do you think teenagers should drink alcohol, engage in warfare or even sex?
FWIW, I do think 21 for drinking is ridiculously high. I also think that it's royally screwed up that constant images that we're subjected to almost involuntarily gear us up for sex with teenaged girls; but they'll throw you in the hoosegow for a decade if you sleep with a consenting 16 year old. As for the army, 18 seems about right. I see no reason not to allow 15 year olds to work; but hey, that's up to the popularly elected legislatures to determine and whatever they decide, I'll live with it.
Originally posted by whodey"Having said that, at what age do you think teenagers should drink alcohol, engage in warfare or even sex?"
I discussed this on a previous thread. Basically I argued much the same. In modern times teenagers are largely held back from attaining their full potential based soley upon their age. As a result, teenagers often have issues with assuming responsibility of any kind and often their listlessness extends well into their 20's.
Having said that, at what age do you think teenagers should drink alcohol, engage in warfare or even sex?
I say ban them all. They do nothing but leave a bad taste in your mouth.
GRANNY.
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Originally posted by sh76Would you let your 15/16 year old son work in the condition that are available in these types of jobs?
Of course they use children. I could have told you that. Who else can figure out how to use all the features of all their little gadgets? Plus, they don't even include real instruction manuals with their products. Clearly, Apple gadgets are made by children for children.
On a serious note, a few 15 years olds were found working in the factories in Asia. Boo in the educational system until 17 or 18 is our societal decision, not a moral imperative.
Sweatshop conditions that is.