@no1marauder saidYou are playing with words. The UN proposed a partition which was passed by the GA. The Jews accepted it while the Arabs did not, and thats their loss .. tough. The Jews went ahead and started setting up the state of Israel, and there was no need to wait for Arab approval.
How many times do you have to be given this history lesson? The British Empire did not partition Palestine neither did the UN. The GA passed a non-binding resolution suggesting a partition plan that was never implemented. The British announced they were leaving at a certain date; they took no steps to partition the territory. The Zionists continued their ongoing war an ...[text shortened]...
You are stubborn idiot and/or a compulsive liar to keep trying to ignore these historical facts.
Therafter the surrounding Arab states brought their forces into Palestine to fight the Jews. So clearly the Arabs started the war of 1948.
After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command.
You are the stubborn idiot and a compulsive liar.
@spruce112358 saidYou and your Islamic buddies are living in the 15 century, this is why they oppress women, and kill homosexuals. Maybe spend some time trying to get them out of there.
Raj, I'm afraid you are the one living in the 18th century. 😆
You've got to pull yourself out of that time period to make any sense.
@Rajk999
Arabs and Jews could have lived in peace in Palestine if the 1947 partition plan was accepted.
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Translation: Give me the states west of the Mississippi and we can live in peace!
1967 - Give me the rest of your land and we can love in peace.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidWell now you are trying to be funny. You need to get your facts right.
@Rajk999
Arabs and Jews could have lived in peace in Palestine if the 1947 partition plan was accepted.
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Translation: Give me the states west of the Mississippi and we can live in peace!
1967 - Give me the rest of your land and we can love in peace.
Arabs never owned, neither governed Palestine, so they cannot call Palestine their country. That is a lie promoted by 'river to the sea' Arabs.
The Jews at the time of the proposed UN partition, made up about 35% of the population, and owned sizeable plots of land in Palestine. There was a constant fighting between Jews and Arabs and hence the proposal to separate these warring parties.
Your 'west of the Mississippi analogy is nonsense.
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@Earl-of-Trumps said
@Rajk999
Arabs and Jews could have lived in peace in Palestine if the 1947 partition plan was accepted.
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Translation: Give me the states west of the Mississippi and we can live in peace!
1967 - Give me the rest of your land and we can love in peace.
Translation: Give me the states west of the Mississippi and we can live in peace!
That's basically what happened with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
The Rashidun Caliphate was Arab and it governed Palestine
@Rajk999 "Arabs never owned, neither governed Palestine, so they cannot call Palestine their country. "
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The Palestinians owned land and homes and had/have title to such.
It's the Euro-Jews that have no claim whatsoever to the entire land.
In fact, even the Sephardi only owned the House of Judah (West Bank)
History is a funny thing, eh?
@Rajk999 saidYour own source calls BS;
You are playing with words. The UN proposed a partition which was passed by the GA. The Jews accepted it while the Arabs did not, and thats their loss .. tough. The Jews went ahead and started setting up the state of Israel, and there was no need to wait for Arab approval.
Therafter the surrounding Arab states brought their forces into Palestine to fight the Jews. So ...[text shortened]... ion that fought under the Egyptian command.[/i]
You are the stubborn idiot and a compulsive liar.
"The fighting intensified"
Yes, the fighting that Zionists in Palestine had been engaged in for years against both Arabs and the British. Israel was "set up" by war and ethnic cleansing.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidWhole truth of history is even funnier...
@Rajk999 "Arabs never owned, neither governed Palestine, so they cannot call Palestine their country. "
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The Palestinians owned land and homes and had/have title to such.
It's the Euro-Jews that have no claim whatsoever to the entire land.
In fact, even the Sephardi only owned the House of Judah (West Bank)
History is a funny thing, eh?
Jews also owned land and homes and had title to such. So the truth which you did not state is that BOTH Jews and Arabs owned land and homes. Try speaking the whole truth. In 1948 the land was partitioned, demonstrating clearly that BOTH Jews and Arabs should have claim to the land which was the idea in the partitioning.
What is even more important is the fact that although many people can own land and homes, that is a separate matter from who governs. In the case of Palestine, as was the case with many territories including Canada, and Australia, the British governed.
@no1marauder saidFighting was on going for many years... so what. The proposed partition brought in the surrounding Arab states, who were intent on removing the Jews. So your nonsense about ethnic cleansing was the plan of the Arabs and it still is up to today.
Your own source calls BS;
"The fighting intensified"
Yes, the fighting that Zionists in Palestine had been engaged in for years against both Arabs and the British. Israel was "set up" by war and ethnic cleansing.
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@Rajk999 saidThe Euro-Jews bought much land, yes. ChatGPT says
Whole truth of history is even funnier...
Jews also owned land and homes and had title to such. So the truth which you did not state is that BOTH Jews and Arabs owned land and homes. Try speaking the whole truth. In 1948 the land was partitioned, demonstrating clearly that BOTH Jews and Arabs should have claim to the land which was the idea in the partitioning.
What ...[text shortened]... estine, as was the case with many territories including Canada, and Australia, the British governed.
"By May 1948, Jewish buyers had acquired about two million dunams of land in Palestine, which was about 6% of the total land area. This land was mostly in the coastal and valley regions of Palestine. "
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Building up to the war of independence, the Euro-Jews displaced 750,000 Palestinians in 401villages and towns. The Palestinians were rescued from further losses by surrounding countries that came in to fight the Jews.
Nice peaceful people, eh?
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidWhy did you not post the whole truth. Land was owned privately by Arabs, but the bulk of the land was state land. Accurate information out there on this is full of propaganda, with some people claiming that Arabs owned 95% of Palestine. The truth is more along the following lines :
The Euro-Jews bought much land, yes. ChatGPT says
"By May 1948, Jewish buyers had acquired about two million dunams of land in Palestine, which was about 6% of the total land area. This land was mostly in the coastal and valley regions of Palestine. "
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Building up to the war of independence, the Euro-Jews displaced 750,000 Palestinians in ...[text shortened]... urther losses by surrounding countries that came in to fight the Jews.
Nice peaceful people, eh?
Jews : 6 - 8 %
Arabs : 10 - 12 %
State Land : 75 - 80 %
Also I never once said the Jews were a nice peaceful people. They are living among people who want them all dead, so they will be stupid if they were peaceful.
@Rajk999
They are living among people who want them all dead, so they will be stupid if they were peaceful.
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Did you ever wonder WHY so many people from so many nations want them dead???
It's because they came into the Levant and butchered people and stole their land. *That's* why