Originally posted by whodeyThe term "evangelical Christians" doesn't refer to Roman Catholics and you know it. Stop being such a pathetic liar.
So Roman Catholics cannot be evangelicals? The term evangelical refers to those things pertaining to the Christian gospel and especially the gospels of the New Testament. At least that is how my dictionary reads. I don't know how the dictionary according to marauder reads, however. (And he calls me an idiot)
Edit: That was a nice touch bringing up Pat ...[text shortened]... burst your bubble but the world is a much bigger place than what you give it credit for being.
Originally posted by no1marauderLiar? Why not take notice of what words actually mean instead of calling me a liar? Granted, the term evangelical usually is not used in relaiton to Roman Cahtolics, but then again, I don't know many Roman Catholics who are proposing to do what Chavez appears to be proposting to do in Venezuala. Therefore, if the shoe fits, wear it!!!!
The term "evangelical Christians" doesn't refer to Roman Catholics and you know it. Stop being such a pathetic liar.
Originally posted by zintierivSo they are the same thing? How about if I said, "Marauder and zintieriv....the same thing"? Would that be fair? Don't get me wrong, I am not a big fan of either, but stereotyping people based on a the label of "evangelical" is misleading and unfair.
Pat Robertson , Jimmy Swagart ... the same thing
Originally posted by whodeySince your original claim is BS, your further claim about Chavez being an "evangelical Christian" is even more BS.
Liar? Why not take notice of what words actually mean instead of calling me a liar? Granted, the term evangelical usually is not used in relaiton to Roman Cahtolics, but then again, I don't know many Roman Catholics who are proposing to do what Chavez appears to be proposting to do in Venezuala. Therefore, if the shoe fits, wear it!!!!
Originally posted by no1marauder"I know you are but what am I"
Since your original claim is BS, your further claim about Chavez being an "evangelical Christian" is even more BS.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me"
These are but a few other infantile come backs to use for future reference. 😀
Originally posted by whodeyJerk, it's been shown by several people that there isn't the slightest support for the claims made in the original article - as usual, your "research" was poor to non-existent. Why don't you make SOME effort to verify your idiotic claims? Or does God tell you that everything written by FoxNews is as inerrant as the OT?
"I know you are but what am I"
"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me"
These are but a few other infantile come backs to use for future reference. 😀
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Originally posted by no1marauderI was merely bringing the article to your attention. If you view Fox news as a bunch of right wing nazi conspiratists who twist news stories for their own devices, that is your business. As for the claims of the article being valid, I guess only time will tell.
Jerk, it's been shown by several people that there isn't the slightest support for the claims made in the original article - as usual, your "research" was poor to non-existent. Why don't you make SOME effort to verify your idiotic claims? Or does God tell you that everything written by FoxNews is as inerrant as the OT?
Originally posted by whodeySo the reason you set up this thread was merely to slander one of the most successful politicans Latin America has? 😞
I was merely bringing the article to your attention. If you view Fox news as a bunch of right wing nazi conspiratists who twist news stories for their own devices, that is your business. As for the claims of the article being valid, I guess only time will tell.
Originally posted by whodeyThat's good because when we invade them, we'll just have to stay off of the same colored squares as the bishops.
It appears that the Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez is considering a proposal that would establish him as the high priest of his own form of evangelical Christianity, convert his cabinet members into bishops of a lower rank, and submit church activities to the civil and military power of his government.
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,238015,00.html
(I am not adovcoating invading them, by the way).
Originally posted by JeeDunno, or avoiding the ugly truth?
Dunno what you refer to, could you be more explicit please, because if someone is financing me I have to complain now for not recieving the cheque!
If you talk about the documentary about the pathetic missed coup against Chavez by the US media/corporation, it has been done by two irish guys - cant be more pro american than that - who just happened to be ther ...[text shortened]... o's gonna be elected in the US, because like always, corporations will tell them what to do.
Where did the two irish guys get their money?
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Originally posted by wedgehead2No. I do not consider Fox news as a gossip column for the right wing fringe as others on this sight do. Granted, all news sources are not 100% accurate. Does that mean we should never listen to them, however? If I thought Fox news was not a credible news source I would never have posted their article.
So the reason you set up this thread was merely to slander one of the most successful politicans Latin America has? 😞
Originally posted by WajomaPlease enlight me !
Dunno, or avoiding the ugly truth?
Where did the two irish guys get their money?
They were just trying to do a documentary about Chavez and happened to be there 2 weeks before the american attempt to put him down. I mean if someone knew that the all "operation kill Chavez" was on, it could only be on the american side, no?
And can you confirm if I am supposed to get a cheque for supporting that anti-american propaganda and tell me to which office I got to send the form, and if it will be too much to ask for stickers and a free t-shirt too.
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Originally posted by wedgehead2I would like to make one thing clear, I do not hate Chavez in any way or wish him any harm. As a result, I am in no way attempting to slander him in any way. I am merely attempting to bring the truth to light behind what is really going on in Venezuala and is why I opened this thread. To be honest, I think the man has done some good things for his country. Having said that, however, I would say that doing good things is not the means to an end. I think it matters more how he is attempting to do "good things" for the people of Venezuala. For example, I am in favor of doing "good things" for the people as long as the people have the right to make choices for themselves. You would think that since I am a Christian I would be happy if Chavez forced his government to convert to Christianity, however, that is not what true Christianity is about. Once you begin to force people to convert it beomces something all together different and it becomes evil. If Christ did not force people to convert why do Christians think this way? It not like Christ converted people by the edge of a sword even though many Christians in the past have unfortunatly chosen this method to try and convert people to the faith.
So the reason you set up this thread was merely to slander one of the most successful politicans Latin America has? 😞
If you bothered to read your own cited article (written by a conservative Roman Catholic priest), it gave as its source unnamed "media reports". Surely such a news source couldn't pass Journalism 101.
Looking at the article, some fringe evangelical group presented a petition to the Venzuelan National Assembly wanting to be treated the same as the Roman Catholic Church is in Venezuela. As part of its petition, it said it would agree to the head of state in Venzuela being nominal head of its church as is done in some other countries. There isn't a shred of evidence that Chavez had anything to do with the petition and there isn't anything about the state appointing clergy, etc. etc. So the whole thing is a ridiculous red herring ran by a few right wing sources in an attempt to discredit Chavez.